Drop of 95.5" @ 800.

30-378 would be flatter if loaded with 150's.

.26 Nosler? It is a smoking flat trajectory round

.257W sighted in at 250yds with 115gr nosler
+2.0@100
+1.8@200
-2.7@300
-11.8@400
-26.8@500
-48.3@600
.26 Nosler sighted in at 250yds with 129gr nosler
+1.7@100
+1.6@200
-2.4@300
-10.5@400
-23.4@500
-41.6@600


5" of wind drift difference at 600 yards

Bad case for night force

Yes, it's the new 257wby...the new king of the kill

All of you reporting drop and drift in inches, how are you correcting for the shot?

Just curious.

Bad case for the 6.5 if you look farther in. 6mm for the win.

drift?



I used the same units they did. Inches vs Mils/MOA is hard to understand (ok, so it's Pi inches at 300 yards, / 300 x distance...) plus that's the default on berger's calculator and it seems easy enough to understand

Because they make only two models in FFP. Almost all those guys run FFP. One model is 3-15X, bit more magnification is better, and the other model the BEAST, hasn't taken off for whatever reason. Prolly weight and the fact that it runs in .2 Mil then another dial to get the other tenth.

BOBO updated with info.

What I was thinking. Then start talking 800 yards...

Same way you score deer.

Stanley making a scope that sees in inches at any distance now?

Stanley FFP reticle...not at what he was saying but still funny.

Bobo...post the same for the roy, please. I want to see the difference.

it may actually be easier with a duplex reticle to adjust for inches rather than MOA

I don't practice. (Unless you count about 8 years almost daily shooting all manner of guns at all manner of stuff when I was young-which I think counts because you learn a lot about shooting without even knowing you're learning.)

That said, I don't shoot a .30/40 Krag and don't shoot past 400 either-primarily because I don't practice. Even a chimpanzee like me can absorb "Get a good rest, firm on shoulder, steady the crosshairs, squeeze the trigger".

One thing I do know-I could become a much better long range shooter under your (or Fireman's or _______s) tutelage. I honestly ask myself though-for hunting would this better my chances of success in putting animals on the ground or not?

On the face of it, it seems like a silly question. The obvious answer is yes. But I'm not so sure. It all goes back to the proper balance of the hunting vs. shooting mentality. For me, the answer is close the distance to under 400 and leave the sack of variables past that distance for you shooters.

Who knows who is correct? I may one day find myself looking at an animal at 600 I can't shoot and can't get any closer to. Conversely, a "shooter" may find himself shooting and missing or wounding and not finding an animal at 600 they may have gotten closer to but didn't see the need to try. I do know this: the shot not taken will not kill an animal, but it does not normally mean the hunt is over. The shot that misses normally means the hunt over for that animal. The shot that draws blood means the hunt is over period on many hunts.

If you really unpack it, it's an interesting discussion.

???? So how would one correct for an 800 yard shot using inches with a duplex reticle?

Now I'm really curious. Seems like I must be missing something.

You a hunter or a shooter?
How wide is a whitetails ears tip to tip?
How tall is a deer from the knee to the back?
How long is a deers head?


Out side of target shooting I've dialed once in 30 years of hunting. That's was on last years antelope. I couldn't get under 500. 400 and under its pretty easy. Even easier if you if you have a flatter rifle.

7-10" at 400 yards isn't hard to figure out. Hell 14"-20" isn't hard

That's was the Roy running 80gr ttsx which has a terrible BC. 3850ft/s

I have yet to recover a bullet including oryx, pigs over 200lbs, whitetails to 300 and a antelope at 400.

If your reticle doesn't have MOA/Mil/anything else markers on it, I don't how you could adjust for N MOA at all?

But if you know the size of your target and distance, then you could at least SWAG an inch-based hold.

Not that I'm recommending doing this at 800

You'ee close. You can make corrections with holds with a duplex Say a good ole 3-9 X. Set up a yard stick or draw lines one inch apart and put it at 100 yards. Look at it through the scope on 9X. Measure how far it is from the center to where the post gets heavier (in inches). Since one MOA happens to be so close to one inch at 100 yards you will know how many MOA the measurements are. So say from the center of the reticle to the heavy posts measures 9" @ 100. Call it 9 MOA. If you put the same target lines at 200 yards the measurement will become 18", still 9 MOA @ 200 yards.

Ballistic calculators speak in MOA or Mil so that corrections jive with scopes that are MOA or Mil. You can't use a linear measurement (inches) make an angular correction (Mil or MOA)

But that's an optics section topic.

Very simple, adjust the turret for the correction required.

Never shot an animal past 316. For grins one time I set a pumpkin out at 400. Grabbed my rusty and dirty .308 truck gun, leaned on a fence post, held over what I figured was about 18 inches, and fired 4 shots. Dead pumpkin all 4x.....

(Hey, does that count as practice? )

I can't beleive anyone ever killed an animal before scopes came with none coin slotted adjustments....