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Rifle Scope Question
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01/14/09 10:30 PM
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turkeyslayer76
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Hello Everyone...I am brand new to the Forum as of today. I just bought a Marlin XL7 .270 after reading many good reviews and am looking to find a decent scope for around $150-175 that I will be using in the hill country to deer hunt. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
[Re: turkeyslayer76]
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01/14/09 10:38 PM
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Big Tony
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Go to Cabelas.com I think for that price range Simmons is a good scope. However, with that being said, the old saying "you get what you pay for" Really applies here. Go to a scope store close by (Academy is a good one) and have 'em drag out all the powers and price ranges you want and look across the store and get the one you like best. Asking scope brands here will be a never ending story. TP
"A hunt based only on trophies taken, falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be." -Fred Bear
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
[Re: turkeyslayer76]
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01/14/09 10:44 PM
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you can get a bushnell elite 3200 3-9x40 just under $200. be hard to beat this scope for the price. riflescopes.com has them for $175, but add tax and shipping.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
[Re: exoticbob]
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01/14/09 11:14 PM
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scottnsa
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I would look at the Nikon scopes at Academy. I think the Pro Staff is in that price range.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
[Re: scottnsa]
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01/14/09 11:28 PM
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Plano Cooter
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Good old Luepold VX in 3x9x40 for under $200 just about anywhere would be my choice.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
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01/14/09 11:33 PM
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BMD
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no such thing as a decent scope in that price range unless u pick up a used leupy.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
[Re: BMD]
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01/14/09 11:43 PM
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Nikon has two good scopes in the price range.... both are 3-9x40 one for $149.00 and one with the BDC reticle for $159.00.
Burris has their combo 3-9x40 Fullfield II scope with a pair of binos for $199.00; that scope has the mil-dot reticle.
Both Nikon and Burris are brighter and clearer scopes than the Leupolds.
Burris is also part of the Beretta family and offer their Forever Warranty if you should need it.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
[Re: jdickey]
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01/15/09 12:24 AM
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my honest advice would be to stick around on this forum. there are many very good people on hear that are willing to sell one to you. i purchased a good NIKON 3x9x40 for 125 FTF,also, vernon [sig226] is a good start. i purchased some equipment from him, a game cam included. works great. he did all he said he would and more. boss hogg in plano was another good partner to deal with. i just bought a good gun case from him. put some faith in the THF members, i always look here first. if you wish to go new...I highly recommend the NIKON 3x9 in your price range. it fits well with my BROWNING 30.06 semi-auto.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
[Re: dirty bird]
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01/15/09 01:43 AM
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turkeyslayer76
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Considering the Bushnell Elite 3200. What are the benefits with 40mm vs. 50mm.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
[Re: turkeyslayer76]
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01/15/09 02:32 AM
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
[Re: turkeyslayer76]
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01/15/09 02:46 AM
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A.B.
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I have forever been a Leupold guy, but on my new toy sits a Burris. If I had to choose between the two I would say Burris.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
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01/15/09 02:56 AM
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Texas Dan
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Quote:
I would look at the Nikon scopes at Academy. I think the Pro Staff is in that price range.
That's what I put on my Remington .270 and I've yet to miss taking a shot because I couldn't see the target.
"When the debate is lost, insults become the tool of the loser."
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
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01/15/09 04:27 AM
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Check Pawn Shops first then your other stores, but don't settle for anything less than LEUPOLD...You wont have to buy 2. 3x9 or 4x12. That is tooooo good a rifle to put a cheep scope on.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
[Re: turkeyslayer76]
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01/15/09 04:35 AM
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Considering the Bushnell Elite 3200. What are the benefits with 40mm vs. 50mm.
Short answer: The 50mm has a bigger exit pupil which translates to greater light transmission to your eye in low light conditions.
BTW, the B&L Elite is a great scope.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
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01/15/09 04:46 AM
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I have a Bushnell Elite 3200 and it is a good scope for the money. I also bought a Burris Fullfield II for my sons first rifle and was real surprised at how good a little scope it was. I would have no problems recommending either of these scopes to anyone.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
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01/15/09 04:49 AM
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I have several of the Elite scopes, and one Burris, and have no complaints!
I would choose either of those over the Leupold Rifleman!
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
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01/15/09 05:17 AM
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no such thing as a decent scope in that price range unless u pick up a used leupy.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
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01/15/09 05:18 AM
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kevinu has a Fullfield II for sale in the Trading Post for $135. I have one and have had no problems.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
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01/15/09 05:52 AM
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In that price rnage Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40. The Bushnell Elite 3200 is also a good scope.
Get a 40mm, no need for a 50mm for 99% of hunting situations.
A 50mm is heavier and also has to be mounted higher, which for most people the lower to the gun the scope can be mounted, the better that person will shoot. The SLIGHT advantage in low light of the 50mm is not worth the other negatives in my opinion.
I've hunted here in TX for 30 yrs as well as a few other western states. If its too dark to make a good shot with a quality 40mm scope then its to damn dark to be shooting at a big game animal.
Bill
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
[Re: turkeyslayer76]
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01/15/09 05:57 AM
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exoticbob
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also, the rainguard really does work on the elite scopes
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
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01/15/09 05:02 PM
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PrimitiveHunter
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Let me start by saying that these conversations are reflections of our opinions and I respect opinions that differ from mine. I hope to receive the same consideration. I also base the following date on 3x9x40 and a 3x9x50 Elite scopes. Quote:
Get a 40mm, no need for a 50mm for 99% of hunting situations.
Just hope that the deer you've been hunting all your life shows up within that 99%.
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A 50mm is heavier and also has to be mounted higher, which for most people the lower to the gun the scope can be mounted, the better that person will shoot.
Yes, the 50mm is heavier. It weighs 6 oz more and it's 3" longer. However, it doesn't necessarily have to be mounted higher on the rifle. The difference in the radius is 5mm. If the 40mm is sitting higher than that above the rifle barrel, the centerline of the scopes will be essentially the same. The only way the 50mm would sit higher is if you had the 40mm sitting 1mm or 2mm above the barrel and had to buy higher rings.
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The SLIGHT advantage in low light of the 50mm is not worth the other negatives in my opinion.
The exit pupil on the 40mm varies from 13.3 to 4.4 depending on the magnification setting. The exit pupil of the 50mm varies from 16.7 to 5.6 depending on the magnification setting. The average human pupil will expand to ~7mm in darkness. If the scope has an exit pupil of 4.4mm, then it is providing less light than the eye can accommodate. While the same is true if the exit pupil is 5.6, it is bigger and does provide more light. There is more to "light" than brightness. There is also color definition. That's what allows you to pick out the color of a deer standing in the woods or brush. Being completely fair about this part, you can adjust the magnification settings on either scope to provide the most efficient light transmission. The difference is that on the 50mm, the magnification setting can be higher to allow the same amount of light.
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If its too dark to make a good shot with a quality 40mm scope then its to damn dark to be shooting at a big game animal.
If the animal is standing in an open field, that could be true. If it is standing 20 feet back in the woods, not so sure.
Practice doesn’t make perfect. Practice makes permanent.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
[Re: PrimitiveHunter]
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01/15/09 05:05 PM
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BMD
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I like 50's with 30mm tubes. 
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
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01/15/09 05:36 PM
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I'll probably get run out of town for this one, but I've been impressed with my BSA. It's not a Wal-Mart plastic pack special BSA either. It's a mil-dot 6-24x40 that came on the used rifle I bought. It's pretty clear and I've had no issues with it holding up or holding it's zero on my Ruger M77 .300 WM. Brand new they're around $130 @ Cabela's, but Natchez has 'em for under $100 (I highly recommend Natchez for any scopes if you know what you want, they're alot cheaper).
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
[Re: BMD]
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01/15/09 06:36 PM
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He said an affordable scope.....  I agree with the above mentioned... If you cant see a deer with a good 40mm scope, then it is to damn dark to risk the shot.
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Re: Rifle Scope Question
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01/15/09 08:16 PM
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I was a Leupold only guy for years... Recently, last few years, I have come to like Burris. We deal with a lot of different scopes and shooters/hunters. Never any complaints from Burris. Have sent back several Leupold's lately, especially Riflemen and VX-I's, and on my personal truck/four wheeler gun, it's a Burris FullField II 3-9x40.
Hard to beat them for consistent accuracy and durability. I have one that has about 1500 four wheeler miles or more, numerous trips in the truck, and is always dead on.
I still like Leupold, but in that price range, I'd go with Burris.
As for 40 vs 50, with good scopes and good glass and coatings, 40mm will be fine. If using lesser scopes, 50mm helps.
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