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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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12/05/14 10:55 PM
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redchevy
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People get cow sized animals off of mountains... come on try a little harder. If you say so but I've butchered broken leg cattle. Big difference in 2K and 900lbs. Better hope it's a cold day How big is your average cow? Seems like 2k would be awfully hi for a completely free range cow born and raised in the wild no supplemental feeding and no vaccinations. I gots a tractor and loader im not a skeerd.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/05/14 10:58 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Most likely those down south are big eared and go under 900 but... You never know. But with out tractor no way I'm messing with it. Those rear quarters will be close to 200 lbs.. Lol Plus grass feed/brush cattle taste like
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/05/14 11:01 PM
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Gangly
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Being in Montgomery County, we dont get very cold weather and since it takes an hour to get from the entrance gate to my stand, multiple trips means ruined meat, especially in this heat.
I appreciate the input guys, and I'll most likely drop one if I see it. However, it's going to have to be a small calf that I can get out on my own.
As far as the property is concerned, only one side is fenced, the other sides are bordered by rivers/creeks.
Thanks again for the input guys, I appreciate it.
Aaron
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/05/14 11:02 PM
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redchevy
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If I taste like the guess you probably don't like deer?
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: redchevy]
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12/05/14 11:11 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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If I taste like the guess you probably don't like deer? Sausage and jerkey but that gets expensive making a cow into sausage. Your prime cuts on a old wild cow will taste nothing like fed cattle
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/05/14 11:30 PM
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Palehorse
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I'll bet you and the land owner could sell a hunt or two in the exotics section.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 12:10 AM
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ralph
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First, I would want to know what was on the other side of those "rivers/creeks" that border the 3 un-fenced sides of the property. Cattle will come and go across creeks and some rivers just as easily as we cross the street. And, "50 years" of feral cattle would produce a LOT of cattle that have to have gone somewhere over all those years!
If you can be sure the cattle don't belong to someone "across the creek", and depending on the total number, there is the possibility to make a lot of money. There will always be some cowboys willing to take on the challenge and someone whose dogs CAN do the job. Also, tranquilizer guns DO work and might be the easy answer.
It can take a lot of work but if you split the take 50-50, you should have somebody willing to spend a couple day on the chance they could make a couple thousand bucks.
Good luck.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
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12/06/14 12:56 AM
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grout-scout
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As long as the ranch is low fence, I see nothing wrong with it. yep, those high fence cattle are way too tame! Lol
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 01:50 AM
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chalet
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If my LO so go ahead and shoot a cow I'd have put a couple in the freezer by now.
Shoot. Eat. Repeat.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 02:38 AM
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Time to play the old Jerry Clower joke and take a buddy out, say you are ticked at the LO and going to shoot one of his cows, BLAM!!
Watch his face....
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 02:49 AM
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swmays
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Blam! Blam! I got his horses. Let's get the he77 outa here
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 02:54 AM
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LOL yeah that's the one...
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 02:57 AM
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cos
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Invest in a tranquilzer gun and pull a couple into trailer, sell them and take money to meat market and probably have enough left over to pay for lease. Go to sale and watch them sell.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
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12/06/14 03:38 AM
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Used to work in a packing house and we butchered range cattle pretty often. They don't have much for fat and it's usually yellow orange color from them feeding on cactus and grass, and the carcass was sold to be ground into hamburger. A full grown cow won't weigh that much quartered. The eat whatever grasses and cactus they can find and aren't corn fed on a regular basis so your feeder doesn't count, so a hind quarter will weigh nowhere near 200 pounds, maybe 110 to 120 if it's a big mature cow. Shoot a young one if looking for roasts and steaks, and even then they won't be all that great.
Last edited by Jimbo; 12/06/14 03:39 AM.
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
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12/06/14 03:42 AM
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I've been on several places with feral cattle. The first one, we actually sold a few "cow hunts" LOL. Better have your stuff together, knives/saws/lots of big coolers & ice/tarps/& plenty of help. We were way off the beaten path & wasn't easy in the heat. The second place is a place I hunt on now. Had several cows & a few calves that belonged to none of the neighbors & were wild as heck. I really wanted to shoot a couple, had the green light to do so. Was putting the whole thing together with the work party/tractor/coolers/meat grinders etc...was gonna grind almost everything into burger and split between several families and some needy folks in the area. Ranch Foreman changed his mind & wanted to try & trap them first so...set a giant trap for them in the corral and after a while finally caught them and took them to auction. Sometimes I wish I didn't have trapping skills I wanted to pop a calf or two for my family freezer at least ...oh well
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: redchevy]
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12/06/14 04:05 AM
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I guess several of you haven't heard. Grass fed is all the rage, even draws a premium price. It still sounds fishy to me. Cattle rustling still carrys stiff penalties. Hope your landowner isn't using you as a pawn in a neighbor feud. The estray law protects livestock from dying for no other sin than tresspassing.
Crotchety old bastidge
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 04:40 AM
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skinnerback
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No rustling going on here. All of the neighbors are family. LO calls around, no claims on the cattle. The neighbors call around, not their cows. They are fair game. No brands, no tags, on your property...they are yours. It is obvious when they are wild cows. Had a bull bust our fence two weeks ago & was/is on our property. Pretty obvious he belonged to the rancher next door. Walked the fence last Sunday, found where he is crossing onto our place and we are working with him to catch his bull so he can get him back.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 05:10 AM
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SakoHunter84
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Once cattle get feral like that it's hard to load them or tame them. They inbreed and get all throwed off, like Arkansas folk.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 05:20 AM
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Wondering if it might be simpler for you to fence your feeders to keep the cows out vs trying to get rid of them? It is a hunting lease. I have hunted a couple of places the feeders were fenced which kept cattle out but not deer. The deer either jump it or go under.
Taking a few off won't change much, You would need a whole posse of TFF folks to get all of them which might not be that great an idea.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 06:02 AM
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Kae006
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Being in Montgomery County, we dont get very cold weather and since it takes an hour to get from the entrance gate to my stand, multiple trips means ruined meat, especially in this heat.
I appreciate the input guys, and I'll most likely drop one if I see it. However, it's going to have to be a small calf that I can get out on my own.
As far as the property is concerned, only one side is fenced, the other sides are bordered by rivers/creeks.
Thanks again for the input guys, I appreciate it. 14k acres in Montgomery County? Where the hell are you at out here? If you need some help putting that meat to use shoot me a PM, I'll bring my knife!
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Re: To shoot a cow?
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12/06/14 03:36 PM
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KG68
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Holy Cow.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
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12/06/14 04:48 PM
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1860.colt
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some good info here. chance ta take a real wild cow figure it would be just s good as store bought. must be my english. gots kin that buy cow & butcher it them selves ta save money. best wishes what ever ya do. my i got cheap posts
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Re: To shoot a cow?
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12/06/14 05:52 PM
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If you shoot it are you going to do a euro or shoulder mount?
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Re: To shoot a cow?
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12/06/14 05:58 PM
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Re: To shoot a cow?
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12/06/14 06:37 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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No rustling going on here. All of the neighbors are family. LO calls around, no claims on the cattle. The neighbors call around, not their cows. They are fair game. No brands, no tags, on your property...they are yours. It is obvious when they are wild cows. Had a bull bust our fence two weeks ago & was/is on our property. Pretty obvious he belonged to the rancher next door. Walked the fence last Sunday, found where he is crossing onto our place and we are working with him to catch his bull so he can get him back. One small metal Bruc tag.... And that's all she wrote....
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