texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
victorcaoh, gtmill6619, cpen13, Huntinkid, garey
72055 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 110,797
bill oxner 91,416
SnakeWrangler 65,529
stxranchman 60,296
Gravytrain 46,950
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Stub 43,931
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics538,050
Posts9,732,362
Members87,055
Most Online25,604
Feb 12th, 2024
Print Thread
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Navasot] #5453794 12/02/14 04:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,614
M
Mfloski Offline OP
Pro Tracker
OP Offline
Pro Tracker
M
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,614
Originally Posted By: Navasot
Break um down.... shoulder meat sucks anyway and isn't worth the time for a little bit of sausage meat


THIS!!!!


Free men own guns...Slaves don't!
[Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image]
Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5453805 12/02/14 04:56 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 44,461
R
rifleman Offline
Sparkly Pants
Offline
Sparkly Pants
R
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 44,461
If rather have good blood to track in the nasty mess than one that managed to somehow not get anchored through the shoulders.

Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5453810 12/02/14 04:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,549
R
redchevy Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
R
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,549
For me shot placement depends on a lot of things, distance what gun im shooting what bullets im shooting etc.

Like rifleman said, I like to have blood to follow no matter where I shoot them.


It's hell eatin em live
Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5453814 12/02/14 04:59 PM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 788
H
hermano W Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
H
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 788
Since deer are seldom exactly broadside to you, I like to shoot for the far shoulder. That normally means I shoot for the crease where the neck meets the shoulder if the deer is quartered toward me, and I shoot behind the near shoulder if the deer is quartered with his head away from me. That puts the path of the bullet right through vital area. A little above center will hit some spine and nail him to the spot where he was hit.

Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5455172 12/03/14 03:32 AM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 10,482
D
DQ Kid Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
D
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 10,482
Originally Posted By: Mfloski
Originally Posted By: Navasot
Break um down.... shoulder meat sucks anyway and isn't worth the time for a little bit of sausage meat


THIS!!!!


Middle Shoulder broadside usually gets them both and the deer can't do much without two front legs. I shoot .30-.06 in South Texas so this caliber works well for that shot. Have shot quite a few being shoulder and as mentioned, those big boys can go quite a ways on adrenaline only even when lung/heart shot with a .30-.06.

Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5455174 12/03/14 03:33 AM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 10,482
D
DQ Kid Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
D
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 10,482
behind shoulder

Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5455195 12/03/14 03:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 109
D
Duck chaser Offline
Woodsman
Offline
Woodsman
D
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 109
I usually shot right behind shoulder and they hardly ever take a step hard to run with no lungs.

Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5455243 12/03/14 04:14 AM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 22,261
T
Texas Dan Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 22,261
Heart and lung shot placed at the back edge of the front shoulder offers the largest margin for error, making it the most ethical shot.

As for increased damage to the meat, how many of us depend on venison for our meals?


"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Western] #5455245 12/03/14 04:16 AM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 13,451
S
Seadog Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
S
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 13,451
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Deerhunter61
Too much damage on the meat...prefer one just behind front shoulder...heart shot.


X's 2


x3


I support Cap and Trade - Cap our spending and Trade Obama

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the Government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. - Thomas Jefferson
Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5455484 12/03/14 01:03 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 347
T
TX Hitman Offline
Bird Dog
Offline
Bird Dog
T
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 347
Obivoulsy, the caliber and bullet used makes the difference as well.

If I shot my 30-06 or my 308 with 180gr, I can shoot them just about anywhere and they will either drt or won't run very far. Deer or hog. Killed a 175lb panhandle buck last year with a heart / lung shot. Only ran about 15yrds. Have shot numerous 200-300lb hogs with different shot placements, furthest one ran was about 20-30yrds with a heart shot. Shoulder shot in a 250lb hog, ran in circles but didn't go anywhere.

Personally, I use hogs as a test for bullet damage / placement to see how they react. I like to use a heavier bullet because of impact. I feel a lighter bullet at faster speeds will react differently on various shot placements.

I shot a 100lb hill country buck with a 222 in the heart and it ran about 100yards with very little blood. Had to track it longer than I wanted and it ran uphill over a draw. Took 3 of us to find it. The bullet did very little interior damage. Have shot them in the shoulder, neck, and high back with the same caliber and they are DRT.

Area I'm hunting and size of the game will determine what caliber / bullet I use.
Honestly, meat loss is the least of my worries. Meaning, I try to make the most ethical kill shot on a deer based on the placement the deer provides. Just my 2cents

Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: erniejs] #5456103 12/03/14 06:06 PM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 33,380
bigbob_ftw Online Content
Big Sprocket Bob
Online Content
Big Sprocket Bob
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 33,380
Originally Posted By: erniejs
Stick it on the top-front of the shoulder, you lose a little meat but don't lose the deer. No wheels equals no run !!!


I'm too old to chase. this shot never fails me.


[Linked Image]

Ultra MAGA '24.
Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5456151 12/03/14 06:23 PM
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,124
P
postoak Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
P
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,124
If you actually hit right behind the should and 1/3 - 1/2 of the way up from the bottom, the deer will usually be down within 40 yards. The longest I've had one go with that shot was 60 yards and that was because the bullet didn't expand at all -- just penciled through.


Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5456311 12/03/14 07:25 PM
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 496
H
HS2 Offline
Bird Dog
Offline
Bird Dog
H
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 496
Well, I was all for the just-behind-the-shoulder shot to save meat, until I shot one there and it ran 100 yards, jumped into the river, and drowned 3/4 of the way across the river. If it hadn't been for my boys there with their good eyes, I never would have found it.Very little blood trail. It took the three of us half the night to get to it and get it back to the truck. Since then I'm all for doing whatever it takes to drop them in their tracks, which means hit them to break their shoulder.


Podcast: Reasoning Through the Bible
ReasoningThroughTheBible.com
Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5457208 12/04/14 02:37 AM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 135
D
DanPhifer Offline
Woodsman
Offline
Woodsman
D
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 135
It is amazing how far they run sometimes. I haven't adoptedt the shoulder shot, but am considering.

Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5457256 12/04/14 03:04 AM
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,439
T
TFF Caribou Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Online Content
Extreme Tracker
T
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,439
I've decided to switch to the high shoulder shot this year. Property line is 100 yards from my feeder, and I don't know the neighbors. I don't want one to get over the fence.


The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference. -George Washington
Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5457413 12/04/14 04:26 AM
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,806
M
MathMan Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
M
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,806
My doe I shot last week I shot in the center of the front shoulder. Had a 2" exit hole and she ran 30 yards. I don't know how. I always aim for the back of the front shoulder because I'm a bad shot. That way I dont gut shot them.

I've been getting better at shooting so my next deer I'll be shooting behind the front shoulder to save the meat.

Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5457705 12/04/14 01:46 PM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 176
P
pprince Offline
Woodsman
Offline
Woodsman
P
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 176
shoulder for big bucks, head for anything else.

Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5457801 12/04/14 06:11 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 27,091
N
Nogalus Prairie Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
N
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 27,091
I shoot 'em about 1/3 of the way up the front leg behind the shoulder because it gives me the most margin for error. They are dead shortly and leave an excellent blood trail. But I am not Annie Oakley and I don't normally use a varmint gun.

I can see in south TX why one would do the high shoulder shot. But one must place it right or one can mess up the whole deal in a hurry.

Ruining meat is not in the equation for me one way or the other.


Originally Posted by Russ79
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5457830 12/04/14 06:41 PM
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,309
S
Stump_jumper Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
S
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,309
Anything within 100 yards and it is a neck shot for me. I like the shoulder meat for ground and sausage. Other than preserving meat there are 2 advantages to a neck shot: 1. they go down, 2. no blood in the body cavity. The skinning and gutting are much cleaner especially for me because I never field dress and never cut the breast bone.


2017 Tundra 5.7 CM 4x4
2006 Champion 2200 Bay Boat
Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5457941 12/04/14 08:00 PM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,956
T
txtrophy85 Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,956
There is about a 1lb of meat in the front shoulder of a deer. Much more meat in the neck


For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: JRJ6] #5457950 12/04/14 08:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,483
jim1961 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,483
Originally Posted By: JRJ6
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Deerhunter61
Too much damage on the meat...prefer one just behind front shoulder...heart shot.


X's 2


X3


X4 What he said

Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5458022 12/04/14 08:50 PM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 15,711
6
603Country Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
6
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 15,711
My preference is to shoot em in the lungs. If I misjudge the distance, the bullet will drop to the heart. The lung shot gives me two things, the first of which is the lung blood, which is easy to identify (so I know I placed the bullet correctly). And, on the lung shot, as long as the deer is still breathing or trying to, blood will be sprayed and easier to find.

Over the years I've shot many deer in the heart and many in the lungs. Lung shot deer seem to go less far. They quickly weaken, lay down to rest, and pass away. Some of the heart shot deer can get a good ways before they give it up. I shot a real whopper maybe 8 years ago, right through the heart, and he ran full tilt boogey for a good 100 yards and died at full stride in the middle of the biggest briar patch on the place and maybe on the planet. It varies from deer to deer, but I prefer the lung shot. And it messes up no edible meat, unless you like venison ribs. We don't.

And having hunted in South Texas, there's some evil undergrowth down there. I can understand folks trying to anchor the deer on the spot.


Not my monkeys, not my circus...
Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: Mfloski] #5458408 12/05/14 12:44 AM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 509
B
BadLander Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
B
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 509
If the deer gives me buck fever! I take his upper shoulder out! Does are for meat.
Being from NM! All deer we shot were high shoulder! Wife and kids are tought lung shots!


Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: BadLander] #5459809 12/05/14 07:13 PM
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,124
P
postoak Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
P
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,124
Originally Posted By: BadLander
If the deer gives me buck fever! I take his upper shoulder out! Does are for meat.
Being from NM! All deer we shot were high shoulder! Wife and kids are tought lung shots!


If you have buck fever, shouldn't you take the shot with the greatest chance of success - IOW, halfway up the body and behind the shoulder? The downside to a high shoulder shot is that you can shoot right over the animal.


Re: The front shoulder shot [Re: txtrophy85] #5460308 12/06/14 12:36 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 230
R
Rock Rancher Offline
Woodsman
Offline
Woodsman
R
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 230
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
There is about a 1lb of meat in the front shoulder of a deer. Much more meat in the neck


Agree. And neck meat does not have all that tendon in it.

Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2024 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3