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Re: 2015 Ford F-150 2nd Generation 2.7 Ecoboost
[Re: redchevy]
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12/01/14 05:13 PM
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I'd REALLY question how well a 2.7L would hold up towing 8500 lbs. All that is comparing engine displacement to max tow rating. Using the same ratio would generate... 5.9 (as in the cummins) with a tow rating of 18,500 lbs... seems reasonable. 6.0 (ford diesel) with a rating of 18,800... seems reasonable. 6.7 (ford or dodge diesel) with a rating of 21,000 lbs. which also seems reasonable. The 2.7 lieter isn't comparable to the naturally aspirated 4 banger in my car, its a built twin turbo motor putting out more horsepower and toque than motors twice its size. Comparing a turbo diesel to a turbo gas isn't even close to apples to apples. Same reason the 6.2 doesn't have a turbo in it in the SD 's, is the same reason the Eco boost isn't in the SD's. No doubht the 2.7 will pull 8000 plus but don't think it will hold up like a non turbo or diesel will doing it, but then again it's not ment too. No dought turbo gas technology has come a very long ways but if it had come that far you would see it in the SD's I think your comparison is what is not "apples to apples" The 6.2 wasn't designed to have a turbo on it so it likely wouldn't hold up too well to forced induction and heavy towing. Build the 6.2 to handle the stresses of forced induction like the ecoboosts are and the powerstrokes are and then cram as much boost down the intake as the 3.5 eco gets and im sure it will hang quite nicely with the 6.7 powerstroke... I think they haven't put an ecoboost model in the superduty yet because it will slaughter the sales of the powerstroke. An adequate amount of low end power without the hassle of emmisions carp and higher priced fuel and people will jump all over it. Lol. That's funny stuff Eco boost killing the 6.7. I know a lot of guys barely get 17mpg on the hwy with the Eco, what do you think will happen with a heavier truck, larger profile and lower gears? I just talked to a guy last week that has a turbo 6.2 with 152k on it. But he averages 9mpg in a half ton. Again gas turbo has come along ways but not ready for 3/4 ton up market.
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Re: 2015 Ford F-150 2nd Generation 2.7 Ecoboost
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12/01/14 05:48 PM
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redchevy
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Is it a direct injection 6.2? Was it a 6.2 when he bought it and now it has an aftermarket turbo?
Sure the gas will always get worse MPG's than the diesel, diesel by nature has more energy per unit of volume than gasoline does. On the other hand gas motors don't seem to have near the fuel system related issues and gas is cheaper than diesel. Anyone who has a aftermarket turbo on their 6.2 1/2 ton gets 9mpg because their foot is so far up that motors arse it doesn't know what to do.
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Re: 2015 Ford F-150 2nd Generation 2.7 Ecoboost
[Re: redchevy]
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12/01/14 07:25 PM
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Is it a direct injection 6.2? Was it a 6.2 when he bought it and now it has an aftermarket turbo?
Sure the gas will always get worse MPG's than the diesel, diesel by nature has more energy per unit of volume than gasoline does. On the other hand gas motors don't seem to have near the fuel system related issues and gas is cheaper than diesel. Anyone who has a aftermarket turbo on their 6.2 1/2 ton gets 9mpg because their foot is so far up that motors arse it doesn't know what to do. Mine would be..
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Re: 2015 Ford F-150 2nd Generation 2.7 Ecoboost
[Re: udamdan]
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12/01/14 07:36 PM
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I get 15 mpg in my 6.2 Raptor. And I drive it like I stole it.
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Re: 2015 Ford F-150 2nd Generation 2.7 Ecoboost
[Re: redchevy]
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12/01/14 08:46 PM
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It don't matter what brand it is, they are ALL overpriced for no longer than they last anymore!!! I would put most new vehicles up against the vehicles of yesteryear in a longevity challenge any day! you certainly know vehicles, i agree with you i own a 3.5 Ecoboost and a 2015 F250 with 6.7 L twin turbo diesel (bought both for towing capacity ) boosted 3.5 will out tow & out run a naturally aspirated V8 trucks on the road; it does have twin turbo so it's an unfair advantage Commanche Co had a tractor pull in August where the big 3 truck companies bring out their trucks for test tow The 3.5 twin turbo out tow a Dodge and almost as good as Duramax Diesel Changed a lot of people's opinions about the small V6 (boosted ) I tow a 10,000 lb Boston Whaler boat with my 3.5 or 6.7L i don't care for speed, torque is what it's all about in my book if you want better gas mileage in a boosted 3.5 turn Traction Control Off, keep tire pressure near MAX, not what's recommended on the door label
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Re: 2015 Ford F-150 2nd Generation 2.7 Ecoboost
[Re: redchevy]
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12/01/14 10:03 PM
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Is it a direct injection 6.2? Was it a 6.2 when he bought it and now it has an aftermarket turbo?
Sure the gas will always get worse MPG's than the diesel, diesel by nature has more energy per unit of volume than gasoline does. On the other hand gas motors don't seem to have near the fuel system related issues and gas is cheaper than diesel. Anyone who has a aftermarket turbo on their 6.2 1/2 ton gets 9mpg because their foot is so far up that motors arse it doesn't know what to do. Henessy and I know another guy with Shelby raptor but no idea about mileage
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