They aren't a dealer for NF. Cabelas had some and is a stocking dealer. Remember all scopes look similar in a store. NF is know for superb tracking with a couple other big names that cost double. Their glass is pretty good too but the main items the price draws is the accuracy of the adjustments and robust build.

I thought they picked them up . Sorry man

In the last two weeks I've had two friends out both zeroing rifles. One wearing a Nikon and one wearing a Leupold. Both would not track worth a darn. See a bullet hole 3 MOA high and 1MOA left, dial the correction and it may come down half or it may come down twice as much as it should, same with the windage.

One was a 7 Weatherby Mag and one was a 30-06. Those get expensive chasing a scope that won't zero.

TacPro in Mingus was a dealer last time I was there.


Chupa

Cabelas carries nightforce....

I am not the person to ask for target shooting or hunting past 300 yards. But, if your purpose is to hunt, you can not beat Leupold for durability. At $1500, you can get a VX6 or a Swarovski Z3. To me it depends on how good your eyesight is, especially at low light. The Leupold is the toughest and stays on zero the best IMO. The Swarvo has the best viewing glass. I have both and keep going back and forth on which is better. What I can say is that I own 2 Vortex scopes and they aren't even close to the quality of Leupold, Swarvo or Nikon for that matter. Vortex has the best warranty and they will even over night you a loaner scope if yours breaks while on a hunt out of state.....but, that doesn't help if you can't see as clear or bump your scope and it is off by 12" at 100 yards.

A friend of mine has a Nikon monarch that was having issues returning to zero after dialing out the last few times we shot all while my Elite Tac and NF had no issues.

Yup. There's significant step in quality when you move up to the above $500 scope category.

I do love my old leupold and it has been a great scope, but I don't believe it was made for "dialing". They say a click is a 1/4 inch at 100 yards... well sometimes it takes 4 clicks to move an inch and sometimes it takes 8 to go an inch, but once its dialed in ive never had it come off.

I have one and like i was saying it it pretty good heck i have a old .243 that has an old simmons 44 mag that i put on when i was about 20 and that thing still is on and never had a problem with it but i think thats back when they was made better than now .

I use the old blued steel Weaver scopes. Included in a discussion of scope toughness should be the bases and rings.

I've seen a simmons that the reticle turned in during a hard off season in the safe. I might still have it but it's not likely. That being said it was awesome for the 10 years prior.

The two I mentioned were capped, scopes, not turrets. Guess I'm spoiled to be able to zero in 3 shots. A scope that tracks where ever it wants to with no predictability as to where the next correction is going to cause an impact is rediculous IMHO. The Nikon got sent in. I have not asked the outcome. I think he was trying for a refund and was going tk get a Vortex Viper after watching me ping steel at the end of the range. Bout to create another monster I bet.

Which vortex viper ya got ?

For me, any of the higher end scopes would be tough enough.
I find weight too important a factor and it's directly related
to toughness. You want a tough as nails high end scope, bring
your muscles, I seemed to have misplaced mine over the years

18-20oz is the very top of where I want to be on a hunting rifle.

Yes the thing about the higher end scopes that are good for longer range it that they are to long for my liking
I am not really worried about the weight after toting my AR10 around

6-24X 50 Mil/ Mil FFP.

It may be the longest scope I have and somehow the lightest weight. Bushnell Elites seem to be a bit shorter but I don't know what they weigh. SWFA should have all the measurements and weights of the scopes you're considering.

Older (late 90's) Leupold Mark 4 10x. Occasionally they pop up for sale on the used market in the $800-$1000 range (the military version that does not have the gold ring). If you ever ran out of ammo, you cold take the scope off the rifle, beat someone to death with it, steal their ammo, put the scope back, and still have zero Seriously heavy-duty (and heavy). The optics are decent but not to the level of a Nighforce but pretty sure it could take considerably more abuse. Leupold seemed seemed to have "updated" the Mark 4 around 2001 or so and those don't seem to be quite as rugged.

Mil reticle, 1/4 MOA turrets.

All MK4 are solid black without the gold ring. Even the old school VX III tactical that pre dated the mk 4 lacked the hold ring. The original military Leupold were also conversion done by premier.

So whats your thoughts on this one
http://swfa.com/US-Optics-10x37-ST-10-TPAL-30mm-Riflescope-P74714.aspx

Honestly, the last high end scope I would buy is a US Optics. I've seen many go down during a class or shooting comp. Sure, they have great customer service, but I'd rather not have to use them.

I have a Leupold VX1 3 by 9 I bought at a pawn shop 30 years ago and stuck on a Wby 22-250.Sighted it in and have not had to take the caps off since.I check it every year and it stays zeroed.I have not been kind to it either.I love the old Leupolds

I liked my USO 3.2-17, no issues with it but it got replaced with a Kahles K312II

Even with less magnification the glass was so much better, even out to 1k.

Nightforce NXS.