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snake ID #5138392 06/01/14 10:21 PM
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gave this little fella one pop to the head this weekend
with my ar. just wanna get clarification on what kind of snake it is.
we were in Comanche.




Re: snake ID [Re: mpr77] #5138432 06/01/14 10:51 PM
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Cottonmouth


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Good call on killing it.

I for one didn't know cottonmouths could look more like a copperhead or timber rattler, always thought of them as a dark snake. Learned something today!

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It's a hog-nose, they put up quite an aggresive show, but are harmless and won't bite. If you want to make a positive I.D. you can look at the scales on the belly. The hog-nose has a series of scales that go all the way across his belly up to the anus slit, and then the scales change to a series of two scales joining together to cross the belly. The cotton mouth has the series of one long scale crossing the belly all the way out to the tip of his tail.

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Yep. I agree. Hognose. At first glace I was thinking copperhead, but ya I'm fairly certain that is a hognose. They eat mice, bugs, and stuff. They are harmless and actually pretty good to have a around. You can't really see it in this picture but they have a little snout like nose which is how they get their name. As Hermano stated they will put on a show rattling their tail and even fake striking but they are harmless.


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Re: snake ID [Re: mpr77] #5138628 06/02/14 01:32 AM
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Yep, I was wrong. I just looked at the patterning on my phone. On the big screen, I can see it better. Hognose.


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We'll forgive you, he looks an awful lot like a cotton mouth...

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Those dudes are good to have around a barn for rat control. They will put on a show if they feel threatened. I figger a few shorts have needed changing because of them... roflmao

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That is a cottonmouth...

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Nah, cottonmouths have a very identifiable feature. They always, always have a darkened stipe behind their eye. A cottonmouth pupil is vertical, this one is round.

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Originally Posted By: dfwroadkill
A cottonmouth pupil is vertical, this one is round.

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Originally Posted By: dfwroadkill
Nah, cottonmouths have a very identifiable feature. They always, always have a darkened stipe behind their eye. A cottonmouth pupil is vertical, this one is round.


This. The tell tale mark of a cottonmouth is a very dark stripe across the bottom/right behind their eye as Dfwroadkill said. http://www.cottonmouthsnake.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/cottonmouth-snake-pic-1-300x224.jpg


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All you had to do is agitate him for a bit...a hognose will rollover and play dead...scary acting dudes till you focus on what type of snake you are looking at.

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It's an eastern hognose. Heterodon platirhinos. Completely harmless, but they will hiss and flatten their heads, then play dead. The only eat amphibians, and usually only toads. They are commonly found around homes because the water attracts the toads, which attracts the snake.

I'll say my usual. If you aren't trying to catch or kill the snake, there is an extremely small chance you can be bitten by any snake, so it's best just to leave them alone. This is actually a really neat, cool snake to have around your house.

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Well, nuff said.


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Originally Posted By: UTAhunter
It's an eastern hognose. Heterodon platirhinos. Completely harmless, but they will hiss and flatten their heads, then play dead. The only eat amphibians, and usually only toads. They are commonly found around homes because the water attracts the toads, which attracts the snake.

I'll say my usual. If you aren't trying to catch or kill the snake, there is an extremely small chance you can be bitten by any snake, so it's best just to leave them alone. This is actually a really neat, cool snake to have around your house.

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You're alright bro! I worked under a Herpatologist for a few years. Reptiles are a passion of mine.

Snakes are very beneficial to the eco-system and a little education on the topic is even more beneficial.


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Originally Posted By: UTAhunter
If you aren't trying to catch or kill the snake, there is an extremely small chance you can be bitten by any snake, so it's best just to leave them alone.


This has always been my strategy for dealing with snakes. Though, I won't let a rattlesnake take up residence in my yard; too dangerous for my dogs and the kiddos.

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If you aren't trying to catch or kill the snake, there is an extremely small chance you can be bitten by any snake, so it's best just to leave them alone.


This has always been my strategy for dealing with snakes. Though, I won't let a rattlesnake take up residence in my yard; too dangerous for my dogs and the kiddos.


I always chase them and try to catch them...sure explains why I have been bit so many times


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Hog nose, I caught the biggest one Ive ever seen last week. Not all will play dead but most will flare out and give a cobra look. I always thought they were slightly venomous but reared fanged, now I gotta go read up on them more.

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They are rear fanged and venomous but the venom is not harmful to humans but can cause some irritation if you're injected.

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Hog Nose for sure. Here's a photo of one I spotted a few years ago:



The head is in the middle pointing away. It has a bit of dirt on its nose because it was digging when we happened across it. In this photo it has flattened its head much like a cobra, which is a dead giveaway as to what type it is.


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Non-venomous Hog Nose. All venomous snakes indigenous to the U.S. have elliptical pupils with the exception of the coral snake. As pointed out, the snake pictured has round pupils.

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That is a Bull snake....good to leave alive, they will kill rattlesnakes and great for rat/mice control, however if you have chickens, they will eat the eggs...


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Stinking snakes. They scare the crap out of me. I enjoy picking them off in my pond, other than that burn em all.

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