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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 09:43 PM
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J.G.
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Yup, turns out the action screws were the issue. I'm probably gonna get a B&C stock for it now in the next couple months to drop some weight for backpacking. Shocking that tightening the screws worked! Now you're swapping stocks so bedding the last one would''ve been a waste of time, money, and effort. I'm glad everything worked out.
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 09:55 PM
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BMD
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Yup, turns out the action screws were the issue. I'm probably gonna get a B&C stock for it now in the next couple months to drop some weight for backpacking. Shocking that tightening the screws worked! Now you're swapping stocks so bedding the last one would''ve been a waste of time, money, and effort. I'm glad everything worked out. Bedding is never a waste of money that is pure ignorance. If a screw came lil loose the rifle would still connect if it had happened unknown hunting, and if you by a b/c you definitely need to bed!
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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#5099445
05/04/14 10:03 PM
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Karnis
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Bedding a waste of time and money? Har. Spoken by a true internet rifle ninja.
BTW, what do you bed your rifles with? Oh wait. You can't and therefore don't recommend it because it's all hogwash. Right?
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 10:17 PM
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J.G.
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Yup, turns out the action screws were the issue. I'm probably gonna get a B&C stock for it now in the next couple months to drop some weight for backpacking. Shocking that tightening the screws worked! Now you're swapping stocks so bedding the last one would''ve been a waste of time, money, and effort. I'm glad everything worked out. Bedding is never a waste of money that is pure ignorance. If a screw came lil loose the rifle would still connect if it had happened unknown hunting, and if you by a b/c you definitely need to bed! Sure he may need to bed a B & C, wouldn't surprise me at all. Lets recap since there's some reading comprehension problems here. Rifle wouldn't group. Optic is tight to the rifle. Barrel gets cleaned every time out. Action screws MAY have been loose. Several of us suggested 1. Tighten the action screws. 2. Foul the barrel, and see what those two steps produce. AFTER checking off those two steps reevaluate. And I'll be damned if it didn't turn into a 1" rifle. Now if he were going to keep the stock it may shoot even better after bedding this stock, but he is not keeping this stock, he is switching to a B & C. The barreled action, and optics are not a problem that's a relief. So if he gets a new stock there is no way it is a bad idea to bed the new stock or bed this stock if he keeps it. The point was and is that bedding is step 3. Don't put step 3 in front of 1 and 2.
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 10:17 PM
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Ramball36
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Ole BMD...I bet all salesman love watching you walk through the door
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 10:27 PM
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BMD
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Ole BMD...I bet all salesman love watching you walk through the door That shows how lil you know about me, not to mention what the hell does that have to do with bedding?
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 10:32 PM
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Yup, turns out the action screws were the issue. I'm probably gonna get a B&C stock for it now in the next couple months to drop some weight for backpacking. Shocking that tightening the screws worked! Now you're swapping stocks so bedding the last one would''ve been a waste of time, money, and effort. I'm glad everything worked out. Bedding is never a waste of money that is pure ignorance. If a screw came lil loose the rifle would still connect if it had happened unknown hunting, and if you by a b/c you definitely need to bed! Sure he may need to bed a B & C, wouldn't surprise me at all. Lets recap since there's some reading comprehension problems here. Rifle wouldn't group. Optic is tight to the rifle. Barrel gets cleaned every time out. Action screws MAY have been loose. Several of us suggested 1. Tighten the action screws. 2. Foul the barrel, and see what those two steps produce. AFTER checking off those two steps reevaluate. And I'll be damned if it didn't turn into a 1" rifle. Now if he were going to keep the stock it may shoot even better after bedding this stock, but he is not keeping this stock, he is switching to a B & C. The barreled action, and optics are not a problem that's a relief. So if he gets a new stock there is no way it is a bad idea to bed the new stock or bed this stock if he keeps it. The point was and is that bedding is step 3. Don't put step 3 in front of 1 and 2. Step one to me is make the tool the best it can be so when and if the shot of a lifetime happens everything is as good as can be for the loose nut behind the trigger. I figure if it is worth doing it is worth doing right!
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 10:48 PM
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Ramball36
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Ole BMD...I bet all salesman love watching you walk through the door That shows how lil you know about me, not to mention what the hell does that have to do with bedding? Has to do with throwing money at a problem instead of troubleshooting it. We get it you buy yourself the best of everything, then post it for us to gawk at. some of us are more proud to do stuff on our own instead of shelling our Benjamins like were the Donald Trump of the THF.
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 10:50 PM
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Ole BMD...I bet all salesman love watching you walk through the door That shows how lil you know about me, not to mention what the hell does that have to do with bedding? Has to do with throwing money at a problem instead of troubleshooting it. We get it you buy yourself the best of everything, then post it for us to gawk at. some of us are more proud to do stuff on our own instead of shelling our Benjamins like were the Donald Trump of the THF. I don't have to throw money at that problem cause I know to bed my rifles and have not thrown a a dime at it dumb arse so again tell me how much you know?
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 10:53 PM
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Ramball36
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I know I don't need to bed my rifle to shoot livestock at 63 yards. Other than that not much
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 10:53 PM
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BMD
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Ole BMD...I bet all salesman love watching you walk through the door That shows how lil you know about me, not to mention what the hell does that have to do with bedding? Has to do with throwing money at a problem instead of troubleshooting it. We get it you buy yourself the best of everything, then post it for us to gawk at. some of us are more proud to do stuff on our own instead of shelling our Benjamins like were the Donald Trump of the THF. Lol you know so little about me it is comical.
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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#5099519
05/04/14 10:54 PM
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Ramball36
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But thanks for the personal attack, I'll put it in my scrapbook
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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#5099520
05/04/14 10:55 PM
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BMD
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I know I don't need to bed my rifle to shoot livestock at 63 yards. Other than that not much Live stock. Lol again continue to show your ignorance.
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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#5099524
05/04/14 11:00 PM
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Ramball36
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Anyways, back to the OP. Glad logic held on and you could figure it out on your own, as opposed to spending money on something you're replacing.
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 11:02 PM
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Yup, turns out the action screws were the issue. I'm probably gonna get a B&C stock for it now in the next couple months to drop some weight for backpacking. Shocking that tightening the screws worked! Now you're swapping stocks so bedding the last one would''ve been a waste of time, money, and effort. I'm glad everything worked out. Bedding is never a waste of money that is pure ignorance. If a screw came lil loose the rifle would still connect if it had happened unknown hunting, and if you by a b/c you definitely need to bed! Sure he may need to bed a B & C, wouldn't surprise me at all. Lets recap since there's some reading comprehension problems here. Rifle wouldn't group. Optic is tight to the rifle. Barrel gets cleaned every time out. Action screws MAY have been loose. Several of us suggested 1. Tighten the action screws. 2. Foul the barrel, and see what those two steps produce. AFTER checking off those two steps reevaluate. And I'll be damned if it didn't turn into a 1" rifle. Now if he were going to keep the stock it may shoot even better after bedding this stock, but he is not keeping this stock, he is switching to a B & C. The barreled action, and optics are not a problem that's a relief. So if he gets a new stock there is no way it is a bad idea to bed the new stock or bed this stock if he keeps it. The point was and is that bedding is step 3. Don't put step 3 in front of 1 and 2. Step one for me is bed. why wouldn't you want a bedded rifle. Why wouldn't you want a action that will be consitant with its stock 100% of the time no matter if your at 80% humidity or 10%, or riding on a 4 wheeler or carring your rifle with a pillow Only one way to make sure all things are consistant and not moving and that's bedding it. Atleast that's my opinion
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 11:04 PM
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BMD
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But thanks for the personal attack, I'll put it in my scrapbook Really personal attack? Look who jumped in and started in on me and I damn sure didn't pull your string? And because I put in 8 years managing a lease and we take great bucks that qualifies as hunting livestock think I care my daughter shot a zebra here in Texas? You jealous or what? I don't give a damn what you think about me or the trophies on my wall but pretty sure you can't call em livestock. Lmao. Guess guys shouldn't throw money your way to solve their problem with their stand or whatever they need welded. Nice sales pitch.
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 11:23 PM
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 11:23 PM
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nsmike
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I just have a problem with assuming a stock isn't bedded properly. I believe if it isn't broke don't fix it. Even Mr McMillian said 'that a clue to whether a stock should be bedded is whether the rifle would shoot 1 MOA groups'. You can do what you want I'm going to shoot mine first.
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 11:23 PM
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J.G.
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Bedding is never a waste of money that is pure ignorance. If a screw came lil loose the rifle would still connect if it had happened unknown hunting, and if you by a b/c you definitely need to bed!
I am not nor have I ever disputed that. What if the barrel was chit? And won't shoot no matter if it is bedded or not, and a guy doesn't want to pay for another barrel to be shipped then a smith to do the machining. Maybe a guy would rather sell the rifle and buy one that will shoot. By all means bed it, as mentioned I have one bedded rifle, the 7 Rem Mag, and I didn't ever shoot it until it was done including bedding. But the OP had a good rifle that should've shot but wouldn't. Loose action screws? Well fix that first and see if it gets better, and it did. Same thing as all of the tail lights go out on your truck. Do you check the fuses first or replace all the bulbs? [/quote] Step one for me is bed. why wouldn't you want a bedded rifle. Why wouldn't you want a action that will be consitant with its stock 100% of the time no matter if your at 80% humidity or 10%, or riding on a 4 wheeler or carring your rifle with a pillow Only one way to make sure all things are consistant and not moving and that's bedding it. Atleast that's my opinion[/quote]
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 11:28 PM
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BMD
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So jg you saying bedding is better or not? You kinda talk out both sides your mouth.
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 11:32 PM
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Ramball36
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You're really not getting his point are you...incredible
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 11:43 PM
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Karnis
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Ole BMD...I bet all salesman love watching you walk through the door Nice post from a libtard. Who PMd you it was time to add nothing of value? One of the quintuplets?
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 11:44 PM
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You're really not getting his point are you...incredible I get his point I don't agree with him. I comprehend English just fine. You just keep shooting your unbedded rifle
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 11:45 PM
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Ole BMD...I bet all salesman love watching you walk through the door Nice post from a libtard. Who PMd you it was time to add nothing of value? One of the quintuplets?
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Re: Need Help getting a rifle to group!
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05/04/14 11:47 PM
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You're really not getting his point are you...incredible I get his point I don't agree with him. I comprehend English just fine. You just keep shooting your unbedded rifle We know you want to
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