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if you ever need some practice cleaning a deer come on down to my place for weekend, we can put you to work after a few dozen you can do gut a deer in about 3 min

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3 minutes...what the heck takes you so long
Ya'll are going to think I'm full of it, but I've got a buddy that can gut'em like lightening. No exageration, I've timed him at 48 seconds! We do alot of population control, one day we shot 16 doe and I timed him on several. He averages a little under a minute, record was 48 seconds. Absolutely amazing! We give the deer to a woman here in town that has 14 foster kids. We pull up and the kids come boiling out of the house and go to skinning. They've got it down to an art.

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shooting does is about as much fun as shooting dogs.

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Now that sounds like fun!

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So, this morning was my first time to get out with the rifle this year, and right at first light I shot a doe. I felt absolutely no excitement and as I was cleaning her I was actually a little mad that I had shot. To me it was more trouble than it was worth. I mean, I am the only one that even eats it at the house. So, I think I have just completely crossed over into the trophy hunter phase. I have no desire to mess with does ever again.
Anyone else feel this way?

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Have you considered Duck Hunting...

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Have you considered Duck Hunting...

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So, this morning was my first time to get out with the rifle this year, and right at first light I shot a doe. I felt absolutely no excitement and as I was cleaning her I was actually a little mad that I had shot. To me it was more trouble than it was worth. I mean, I am the only one that even eats it at the house. So, I think I have just completely crossed over into the trophy hunter phase. I have no desire to mess with does ever again.
Anyone else feel this way?

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I want to BAD. I have just never been around anyone that duck hunts so I don't know how to call, how to setup or even where to go.

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Don't need any calls! We just sneak up the side of the tank dam and blast them on the water.

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What better way to help your herd out, and promote the sport than by taking someone hunting and letting them kill your does.

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Okay, if everyone is going to stop shooting does, because there is no thrill or excitement in it, does that mean everyone is ready to give up on trying to manage the deer herd to produce quality bucks?????

If the does are not managed/shot and the overall numbers kept to a manageble level, then bucks will not reach their genetic potential due to over population of does.

Am I totally missing something or has management theories changed?

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I think I have just completely crossed over into the trophy hunter phase. I have no desire to mess with does ever again.
Anyone else feel this way?

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Not argueing, just pointing out, since the majority of folks on here want to shoot quality bucks, that to achieve that level of quality, does have to be managed as much or more so than the bucks.

Over the past couple of years on here, I have come to look upon those of us who just want to kill A deer, as being or becomming a minority.

The more people that make the move to just shooting big bucks, for what ever their reason, reduces the number of does that will be taken out of the herd.

The fewer does taken out, means an increased demand on the available habitat/food source, whether on Private Land or Public Land.

What I will or won't shoot is not part of the issue, the issue is the concept that not taking does out, and only shooting the bigger bucks, is some how going to not end up being detrimental to the over all health of the deer herd in that area.

As I have said, if all a person wants to shoot is Big Bucks, then more power to them, and I am happy for them.

I just do not share that attitude, and feel that a continued decrease in the number of does being taken out of the herd will in the long run prove to have been counter productive as far as bucks reaching their full genetic potential antler wise due to the decreasing amount of nutrition, due to the continueing increase in the numbers of does and inferior bucks.

If the increase of inferior bucks is thrown into the equation, that means those animals will be the ones doing the breeding, passing on those inferior genes, resulting in fewer trophy class or even bragging class bucks in the herd, putting things right back to where they were whan the AR's were first instituted.

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At what point does not wanting to shoot does because there is no excitement involved, turn to not wanting to shoot anything under 150 B&C because there is no excitement involved?

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If there was no excitement involved, I wouldn't hunt at all!

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