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Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: camartin] #4742258 11/12/13 06:24 PM
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Boom for her first deer. You keep taking a young kid to the blind, make them be still an quiet, and they hunt numerous times and dont get to shoot they will get bored and probably lose interest in this day and time. Let her shoot anything within the lease rules for her first and maybe second deer, then start laying groundwork for management and whatnot. That being said, as others have said, your place is almost impossible to manage with all the traffic, the amount of hunters you have, unwanted guests, and if it is surrounded by small tracts.

Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: camartin] #4742265 11/12/13 06:27 PM
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I probably would have passed on the 8 and let your daughter shoot whatever. Easier to say that after the fact.

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I manage 348 acres and do a fine job in my own opinion. I have noticed an increase in larger bucks based on the management techniques that i have instilled over the past few years. I dont shoot 2.5 year old nine points for starters. Keeping an eye on everything can be quite a hassle and worrisome at times. However, I have made an effort to meet my neighbors and express my concerns for the management of the area. Some agree and some would rather have me take a hike. Regardless, them meeting all 6' 4" 235 pounds of me is important so that in case anyone ever gets a bad idea. Im hoping the thought of tangling with my ugly mug would deter them. All in all, neighbors are key. Good or Bad, you gotta mange around em.

And children definately get a pass on first couple of deer.

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Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: BenBob] #4742306 11/12/13 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: BenBob
ALL OF THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN COVERED WHEN YOU GOT ON THE LEASE.


Not a lease, its my own land but the neighbors shoot anything, tried to talk to them about it but that did nothing.


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If I understood you correctly you are allowing your nephew to shoot your does. Would this be a buck that would be from your bag limit for the lease or an additional one? I'm all for the kids but if I were on the lease it would have to come from my bag limit for the lease not an extra one. I would give up shooting one for me so to speak.


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Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: camartin] #4742371 11/12/13 07:01 PM
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Let her shoot the buck!

Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: dogcatcher] #4742379 11/12/13 07:04 PM
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Even saying that I don't believe you can manage that without the help of neighbors, I still would not shot a 2.5 yo buck. This could be a good opportunity to teach her what to shoot well as patience. ..just my .02


If your granddaughter asked to shoot, you wouldn't say no. up


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Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: txsuperman] #4742397 11/12/13 07:09 PM
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If your lease partner thinks it should walk, I would let it walk and find your daughter an older buck.

Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: Grosvenor] #4742511 11/12/13 07:37 PM
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It's just a deer. Kill it and eat it. That's what they were put there for.

Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: Grosvenor] #4742513 11/12/13 07:38 PM
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Tired of this grow em up and get some age on em crap. Let that little girl shoot what she wants as long as its legal! If your partner dont like it then tuff! You will be that little girls hero and have a great hunting partner to boot! Trust me when i say u cant put a price on that.


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Originally Posted By: Hoytman
Tired of this grow em up and get some age on em crap. Let that little girl shoot what she wants as long as its legal! If your partner dont like it then tuff! You will be that little girls hero and have a great hunting partner to boot! Trust me when i say u cant put a price on that.

that's my thinking exactly. thank you


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Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: jeffbird] #4742519 11/12/13 07:42 PM
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Even saying that I don't believe you can manage that without the help of neighbors, I still would not shot a 2.5 yo buck. This could be a good opportunity to teach her what to shoot well as patience. ..just my .02


If your granddaughter asked to shoot, you wouldn't say no. up


Do you give them ice cream and candy for breakfast if they ask for it?


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Tired of this grow em up and get some age on em crap. Let that little girl shoot what she wants as long as its legal! If your partner dont like it then tuff! You will be that little girls hero and have a great hunting partner to boot! Trust me when i say u cant put a price on that.


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Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: dogcatcher] #4742528 11/12/13 07:44 PM
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I believe the title to the thread is "Can you manage 325 acres" so to answer his question NO if he is going to shoot a 2.5 year old 9pt buck.

Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: Hoytman] #4742541 11/12/13 07:46 PM
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I personally wouldn't let her shoot. I lead by example and my kids are going to learn to hunt just like dad. If they wanna kill something and not worry about age, well a doe it is. I think our youth needs to learn the values of management but never face scrutiny about mistakes. I think most parents get caught up in the enjoyment of seeing a kid kill a animal and that's why most throw management out the window. To me they are the future and deer are bigger than ever today because of the effort us hunters make and that needs to be passed on, not its got horns, kill it.

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Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: dlrz71] #4742556 11/12/13 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: dlrz71
I believe the title to the thread is "Can you manage 325 acres" so to answer his question NO if he is going to shoot a 2.5 year old 9pt buck.
Great point!!

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Originally Posted By: Aboud
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I believe the title to the thread is "Can you manage 325 acres" so to answer his question NO if he is going to shoot a 2.5 year old 9pt buck.
Great point!!


While basically true, that is not really the answer to the question. The answer is a yes or no, simply put. He would only shoot the 2.5 yr 9pt if he thought he could not manage the place. Presumably, if he could manage it, he would not shoot it. The question really has little to do with the 2.5 year old 9 pt. He is wondering if it is worth letting the 9 pt pass or not.

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Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: Aboud] #4742581 11/12/13 08:01 PM
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Deer management is a personal decision, nothing more nothing less. No right or wrong answer or ideology.


My old ranch we consitantly took 150-200+" deer, and they still do.

Kids could shoot what ever they wanted to.


Values of management is our journey into growing bigger deer. Kids hunt to hunt, don't down grade/degrade their hunting experience with or self imposed ambitions


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If a 2.5 year old nine pts is the only buck you have on a half section, a) your not hunting hard enough or hunting it in the wrong way or b) need a new place.


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To me it's less about the bucks age/size than it is about whether he has killed his limit of bucks on the lease for the year. I know if a hunter on our lease killed an extra one and I didn't see one to kill I wouldn't be happy about it. It's not just his piece of ground to hunt and there are others on the lease that have a stake in this too.


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Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: camartin] #4742645 11/12/13 08:18 PM
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You asked for opinions, so I will post mine. No coolaid and against the "grain" grin

Your intro is " CAN I MANAGE 325 ACRES", But so far you have only made a case of negatives, I submit to strengthen your case. I am surprised after all the negatives with the property, that you continue to lease it?

I also think it depends on what the new guy was led to believe about the "unspoken" lease rules, was he told you had a "management goal"? After all, new or not, like it or not, he is a paying member of the lease. I suspect by his reaction, that he is under the impression you intend to manage the place. (As am I reading your post topic)

I think it would have been easier to have said in the beginning, "We 3 members intend ,or can, bring our kids to harvest an animal" . That way no surprises to the others when you throw in the towel on the management idea.


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Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: camartin] #4742726 11/12/13 08:42 PM
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Let her shoot it. What's the chances of y'all seeing that deer after this year? Slim to none.

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Can you manage a 325 acre place LF? No.

Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: don k] #4742817 11/12/13 09:10 PM
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Really the only management you can do on the acreage is select harvesting older bucks and feed the ever living mess out of them. Maybe shoot a few does when they take over feeders.

Re: CAN YOU MANAGE 325 ACRES [Re: don k] #4742830 11/12/13 09:16 PM
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Can you manage a 325 acre place LF? No.


Yes you can, is it as effective as larger section, no but none the less you can still be a core area


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