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Re: duck call question
[Re: Streater]
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11/07/13 03:03 PM
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troutmauler
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quakhead works for me. I don't call loud, but it has enough volume to carry without using a lot of air. Also has enough "raspiness" to sound natural to me. This is my main call, and its cheap.
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Re: duck call question
[Re: cynikaltracker]
#4728385
11/07/13 03:22 PM
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Joined: May 2012
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wcbillcollector
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ok, I am new to duck hunting... well "serious" duck hunting anyways. I have jumped ponds and sat around waiting for ducks to fly to a pond for years. So this year I am building blinds, setting out decoys and calling. What makes a call so much better than others? $100+ for some calls and $25 for others? Will the more expensive calls be easier to use (less air flow required)? I ask because I cant get the airflow to do a feed call on the cheaper call that I have. Wondering if a "better" call would take less air to use until I get better at calling. You get what you pay for, as far as quality and customer service. Bite the bullet and get you something nice ($65-$80) to start with. Just FYI....if it were me I would look for something in cocobolo (for the collecting aspect) and single reed. IMO a single reed will teach you better air control and develop stamina. Echo, Rnt, Quackshack are all very good calls. Good luck. T
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Re: duck call question
[Re: wcbillcollector]
#4729111
11/07/13 06:55 PM
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dogcatcher
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Buy a name brand Louisiana style call. A Faulks will last you a life time.
Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________
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Re: duck call question
[Re: dogcatcher]
#4729153
11/07/13 07:09 PM
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Going Green
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Bird Dog
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I blew an echo timber for a while, but the barrel kept coming out on its own. Go to reach for your $140 call a couple times with birds working and only come up with half will make anybody see red. Eventually it happened outside of the boat and was lost for good. I prefer a single loop lanyard to the double, but this is a good case for one. Wrote the company, no response. Lost me as a customer. Shame too, because it sounded great, but just on principle I will never buy another.
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Re: duck call question
[Re: Going Green]
#4730731
11/08/13 04:07 AM
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chilled shot
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I blew an echo timber for a while, but the barrel kept coming out on its own. Go to reach for your $140 call a couple times with birds working and only come up with half will make anybody see red. Eventually it happened outside of the boat and was lost for good. I prefer a single loop lanyard to the double, but this is a good case for one. Wrote the company, no response. Lost me as a customer. Shame too, because it sounded great, but just on principle I will never buy another. Wow, that's not good. I've never heard of any bad press with Rick and the guys at Echo. Always had great customer service with any dealings i've had with em. Maybe a phone call would be more timely during this busy time of the year.
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Re: duck call question
[Re: chilled shot]
#4731208
11/08/13 02:02 PM
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Joined: Jul 2011
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Muddyfoot
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I blew an echo timber for a while, but the barrel kept coming out on its own. Go to reach for your $140 call a couple times with birds working and only come up with half will make anybody see red. Eventually it happened outside of the boat and was lost for good. I prefer a single loop lanyard to the double, but this is a good case for one. Wrote the company, no response. Lost me as a customer. Shame too, because it sounded great, but just on principle I will never buy another. Wow, that's not good. I've never heard of any bad press with Rick and the guys at Echo. Always had great customer service with any dealings i've had with em. Maybe a phone call would be more timely during this busy time of the year. I know for sure that they are not like that at Echo calls.... But you can't win'em all. But I will say this, inserts usually come out the barrel, not barrels coming out of inserts, also if you put any call on a lanyard you should loop both insert and barrel, like you said you don't like double loops so that's a chance you take, not companies fault, also if you write a letter to file a complaint then the way words are expressed can be miss leading in the way you feel so try to call sometime and they will talk to you,but know this,that inserts are designed to come out so it's really nothing you can do about that.
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Re: duck call question
[Re: troutmauler]
#4731263
11/08/13 02:23 PM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 554
Streater
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quakhead works for me. I don't call loud, but it has enough volume to carry without using a lot of air. Also has enough "raspiness" to sound natural to me. This is my main call, and its cheap. Single or double reed?
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Re: duck call question
[Re: Muddyfoot]
#4731333
11/08/13 02:53 PM
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Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 391
Going Green
Bird Dog
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Bird Dog
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I blew an echo timber for a while, but the barrel kept coming out on its own. Go to reach for your $140 call a couple times with birds working and only come up with half will make anybody see red. Eventually it happened outside of the boat and was lost for good. I prefer a single loop lanyard to the double, but this is a good case for one. Wrote the company, no response. Lost me as a customer. Shame too, because it sounded great, but just on principle I will never buy another. Wow, that's not good. I've never heard of any bad press with Rick and the guys at Echo. Always had great customer service with any dealings i've had with em. Maybe a phone call would be more timely during this busy time of the year. I know for sure that they are not like that at Echo calls.... But you can't win'em all. But I will say this, inserts usually come out the barrel, not barrels coming out of inserts, also if you put any call on a lanyard you should loop both insert and barrel, like you said you don't like double loops so that's a chance you take, not companies fault, also if you write a letter to file a complaint then the way words are expressed can be miss leading in the way you feel so try to call sometime and they will talk to you,but know this,that inserts are designed to come out so it's really nothing you can do about that. You are correct, the insert came out of the barrel. My nomenclature faux pas. While I know that they are made to come apart (to clean, adjust, etc) they should not just be coming apart on their own. Even if I had a double loop lanyard and retained both pieces, if I need it, go to reach for it and come up with two pieces, its just as worthless to me. Like I said, I wont dog them too hard as I thought it was a great sounding call, and you're right, my fault for not wearing a double loop lanyard. Just dissapointed that I spent that kind $$$ and the time to write them an email regarding it and get nothing in return. Not even a "well sorry, bubba. Shoulda worn a tripple dipple retention lanyard." I wasn't offensive at all in my email, was just looking for solutions. I ended up buying a call from an old codger up on Sandusky Bay. I was able to talk to him about what I wanted, he went in the back and turned one on the lathe while I waited, then tuned it to my liking as I tested it. $30. IMHO it sounds light years better than any other call I've blown, and has never come apart on its own. Point being, name brands mean exactly squat. The ducks don't seem to care.
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Re: duck call question
[Re: Going Green]
#4731334
11/08/13 02:54 PM
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Navasot
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Re: duck call question
[Re: Going Green]
#4731405
11/08/13 03:20 PM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 11,833
wal1809
THF Celebrity
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I blew an echo timber for a while, but the barrel kept coming out on its own. Go to reach for your $140 call a couple times with birds working and only come up with half will make anybody see red. Eventually it happened outside of the boat and was lost for good. I prefer a single loop lanyard to the double, but this is a good case for one. Wrote the company, no response. Lost me as a customer. Shame too, because it sounded great, but just on principle I will never buy another. Wow, that's not good. I've never heard of any bad press with Rick and the guys at Echo. Always had great customer service with any dealings i've had with em. Maybe a phone call would be more timely during this busy time of the year. I know for sure that they are not like that at Echo calls.... But you can't win'em all. But I will say this, inserts usually come out the barrel, not barrels coming out of inserts, also if you put any call on a lanyard you should loop both insert and barrel, like you said you don't like double loops so that's a chance you take, not companies fault, also if you write a letter to file a complaint then the way words are expressed can be miss leading in the way you feel so try to call sometime and they will talk to you,but know this,that inserts are designed to come out so it's really nothing you can do about that. You are correct, the insert came out of the barrel. My nomenclature faux pas. While I know that they are made to come apart (to clean, adjust, etc) they should not just be coming apart on their own. Even if I had a double loop lanyard and retained both pieces, if I need it, go to reach for it and come up with two pieces, its just as worthless to me. Like I said, I wont dog them too hard as I thought it was a great sounding call, and you're right, my fault for not wearing a double loop lanyard. Just dissapointed that I spent that kind $$$ and the time to write them an email regarding it and get nothing in return. Not even a "well sorry, bubba. Shoulda worn a tripple dipple retention lanyard." I wasn't offensive at all in my email, was just looking for solutions. I ended up buying a call from an old codger up on Sandusky Bay. I was able to talk to him about what I wanted, he went in the back and turned one on the lathe while I waited, then tuned it to my liking as I tested it. $30. IMHO it sounds light years better than any other call I've blown, and has never come apart on its own. Point being, name brands mean exactly squat. The ducks don't seem to care. I would have to agree. I am making calls and I like what I call the "Old Dad" call better than anything I have ever picked up. Is is easy to make, walnut, with a teak oil finish. It is just super easy to run and has a very disinct ring to it. I have learned quite a bit about calls and the prices of calls. It is not always "You get what you pay for". Somewhere out there right now some old dude is making calls that sound better than any commercial call out there. He has no interest in making 20 calls a day, more like 1 call a week. Some of us will never get to meet him or hear his calls. He could sell them for $20 or $150 or any point in between. The price tag does not make a call better. I used a Faulks call for a long long time. $18 retail. I aint into braggin especially about how I run a call. I suck at duck calls. I will say I am good at using a call to put a greenhead right in front of a hunter. $18 was well worth the money.
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Re: duck call question
[Re: wal1809]
#4731447
11/08/13 03:39 PM
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wal1809
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Here is the Old Dad call I spoke of. Remember I am not a good caller for show. I can put a bird in your pocket but not on a stage. I used it the other day in a rice field while goose hunting. I can't wait to get it where it belongs, under a fat arse greenhead in the timber. I doubt it will happen but I am headed to the lease Saturday night to hunt Sunday morning. Birds or no birds I am going. Click on the pic 
Last edited by wal1809; 11/08/13 03:40 PM.
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Re: duck call question
[Re: wal1809]
#4731460
11/08/13 03:44 PM
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wal1809
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That call is not a $150 call. It is way cheaper than that by far. It is much easier to run than any call I have ever picked up. You also have to remember I suck at blowing a call and I was ina a little shed with an I-Phone. To really test it I went behind the house to the river bottom. Although this is an old picture, the river has been out like this for a month. So I took the call down there, in the element is is to be used. It sounds great under the tree canopy. 
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Re: duck call question
[Re: wal1809]
#4731492
11/08/13 03:59 PM
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Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 391
Going Green
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Thats a nice little versatile call, Wal. Like the touch of squeak you get on the low end. Ducks get that when they have a crop full of food, pushing on their vocal cords.
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Re: duck call question
[Re: Going Green]
#4731558
11/08/13 04:24 PM
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Posts: 11,833
wal1809
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Thats a nice little versatile call, Wal. Like the touch of squeak you get on the low end. Ducks get that when they have a crop full of food, pushing on their vocal cords. Thank you very much. I like that little ring myself. You picking up on that that little split note tells me you know your way around the back and front end of a duck call.
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Re: duck call question
[Re: chilled shot]
#4731687
11/08/13 05:05 PM
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Posts: 59
Bowhunter
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I've got a few Echo calls and some several years old. Never had a problem with any of them.
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