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Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/17/13 04:55 PM
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rob valle
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I know the "honor system" has been in effect for decades....but honestly I think these little guys get a bad rap. Although I like them personally, I know a lot of ranches down south can't stand them and treat them like hogs. (Kill them all and dump them.) It just seems that as long as they are classified as a game animal, they should at least be afforded tags like deer or turkey. I think they taste pretty good and they make cool mounts. What do you guys think?
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
[Re: rob valle]
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10/17/13 04:58 PM
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I think that they should be de-listed... they are not even a true swine... a rodent. Feral hogs can be tasty and can make cool mounts also.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/17/13 05:17 PM
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Not a matter of being a swine or not. They are a native animal, not an invasive species. Question is do they rate being a game animal? With a limit of 2 I guess they could be tagged. Right now the only Javi related tickets I've seen or heard of are for waste of game if hunters cape-em for a mount but discard the meat. Gotta at least act like you are taking the meat home to eat or give away. I personally think that tagging wouldn't change much. Those who mow them down and dump them now are already breaking the law, and will just continue to do so.
In my case, I have one mounted on the wall, and I'm done with em. Not gonna waste any freezer space on Javi meat when I can fill it with hog.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/17/13 05:21 PM
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So do you think we should start tagging dove too? I see what your saying but that's just simply to many tags
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
[Re: Navasot]
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10/17/13 05:41 PM
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I think they are near but also hunt places where they are everywhere.
Need to be de-listed as a game animal in my opinion
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
[Re: Navasot]
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10/17/13 05:48 PM
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Not a matter of being native or an invasive species. Ring-necked pheasant are not native but are classified as "game birds". Jav's don't rate as a game animal, almost inedible just like the Aoudad sheep. Only good for mounts just like the aoudad. Only difference with the Jav's is some will transport the meat home to give the appearance of being legal only to discard it. They don't even fall under quartering/processing requirements like other "game animals". I do hate to see those that dump "game meat" that's considered edible, but most will on these rodents, thus delisting is the most practical.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/17/13 06:07 PM
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So do you think we should start tagging dove too? I see what your saying but that's just simply to many tags The limit is 2 so your point is skewed. We have several at our lease. Not nuisance worthy yet. Just adds a bonus of game animals to watch or shoot.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/17/13 06:21 PM
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In my opinion Javi's eat as well or better than deer. They are a native species and I believe they need to be protected. We have some but not a bunch for the most part they make themselves scarce. When they get bold and become a nuisance we shoot a few, but I always try to use them.
Anyone who says they eat bad doesn't know: 1- what they are talking about 2- has never given the effort to try
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/17/13 07:43 PM
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Where in the world did y'all get the idea that javelina are rodents? They are in the family, Tayassuidea, or New World Pigs. They are related to European pigs but far enough apart that they can't cross. You can eat them too, just not a lot of folks try.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/17/13 07:48 PM
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In my opinion Javi's eat as well or better than deer. They are a native species and I believe they need to be protected. We have some but not a bunch for the most part they make themselves scarce. When they get bold and become a nuisance we shoot a few, but I always try to use them.
Anyone who says they eat bad doesn't know: 1- what they are talking about 2- has never given the effort to try I agree. Everytime I have eaten it, it has been good. I know they stink, but if you are careful when skinning and remove the scent gland, they are fine. Also, as a native animal I believe they have the right to be protected like the other ones. Could you imagine if TPWD said you could only shoot 2 bucks per year but not issue tags? Riiigghhttt......
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/17/13 07:50 PM
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Skunks, 'possum, field mice and coyotes are native as well.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/17/13 07:59 PM
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Skunks, 'possum, field mice and coyotes are native as well. Yes they are...and all are classified as "non-game".
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/17/13 08:02 PM
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They are in the family of Tayassuidae, which is different than the true swine family of Suidae, because they are anatomically different. Elk are a native species also and much better table fare, but are de-listed. I do enjoy watching the collared peccary moving about in the field and am glad that they are huntable, just don't feel like they should be restricted with tags or limits.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
[Re: rob valle]
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10/17/13 08:02 PM
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Then the easiest fix is to reclassify javelina as non-game to join feral hogs.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/17/13 11:43 PM
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Pass this on to the ranchers in the big bend area and get their opinion.Ask how many fences they have to repair.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/18/13 12:06 AM
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Then the easiest fix is to reclassify javelina as non-game to join feral hogs. Feral Hogs are not classified as a non game animal. They are classified as Exotic Livestock.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
[Re: Sniper John]
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10/18/13 12:33 AM
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They used to have tags for them on your license years ago.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/18/13 12:44 AM
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Then the easiest fix is to reclassify javelina as non-game to join feral hogs. Feral Hogs are not classified as a non game animal. They are classified as Exotic Livestock. Unprotected, exotic, non game animals
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/18/13 12:47 AM
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wait, i thought we established a while back that you needed permits for aoudad, not the same for javi?
If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/18/13 12:59 AM
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Why would you need a permit for aoudad?
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/18/13 01:13 AM
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wait, i thought we established a while back that you needed permits for aoudad, not the same for javi? If someone doesn't jump on this for a Sig Line soon, I will.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
[Re: rob valle]
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10/18/13 01:31 AM
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wuttahyall know from funny But if I was hunting over a feeder and a big aoudad came into the corn, I'd shoot it in a heartbeat.
With a permit I hope! What? a permit for aoudad? no such thing i just wanna know where i get my aoudad permits? The same place you get your teal tags
If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/18/13 01:35 AM
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In my opinion Javi's eat as well or better than deer. They are a native species and I believe they need to be protected. We have some but not a bunch for the most part they make themselves scarce. When they get bold and become a nuisance we shoot a few, but I always try to use them.
Anyone who says they eat bad doesn't know: 1- what they are talking about 2- has never given the effort to try I agree. Everytime I have eaten it, it has been good. I know they stink, but if you are careful when skinning and remove the scent gland, they are fine. Also, as a native animal I believe they have the right to be protected like the other ones. Could you imagine if TPWD said you could only shoot 2 bucks per year but not issue tags? Riiigghhttt...... X2
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
[Re: rob valle]
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10/18/13 01:37 AM
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I think we should have TPWD stock javi's in East Texas and other areas that do not have them so they can enjoy them. Then we could have a season and tags again.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Should TPWD have Javelina Tags?
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10/18/13 01:39 AM
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So our wood rats can eat them?
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