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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: cameron00]
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08/01/13 05:58 PM
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Humannpower
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I might try to tie the 2nd buck to some sort of zipline apparatus and zing him across the feeder area of someone else on the lease so they'd think they shot him.
Weekend at Bernies style. Just the visual of a buck tied to zipline flying through the air is just hilarious
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: Humannpower]
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08/01/13 07:42 PM
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cameron00
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I might try to tie the 2nd buck to some sort of zipline apparatus and zing him across the feeder area of someone else on the lease so they'd think they shot him.
Weekend at Bernies style. Just the visual of a buck tied to zipline flying through the air is just hilarious "WHOA BOY, NAILED HIM. Although it was a bit odd that his legs weren't moving. He was just sort of levitating across the field. Regardless, HE'S GOIN' ON THE WALL!!!"
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: Alta Loma]
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08/01/13 09:20 PM
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rifleman
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How will you explain that to the GW, you have to write down date killed on the back of you're license now, it's a 1 buck county. One comes back to camp to be skinned and thrown in an ice chest... The other one gets cleaned at the scene of the crime and hidden in an ice chest there....post dated tag to the next day in a neighboring county. Don't mention it to friends or family.
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: dkershen]
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08/01/13 09:54 PM
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RICK O'SHAY
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You said, "your best friend" I voted #1 a I'd be there in a flash so he could help me find MY deer and get it tagged.
Just someone else on the lease... maybe, but more than likley I'd say, "man that sucks, what are you gonna do now?"
Talking to our GW I learned that #1 things go much better when you are honest. #2 they have some personal discression, ours would probably take the deer and let him pay the fee for Hunters for The Hungry. They understand an "honest mistake" sometimes.
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: rifleman]
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08/01/13 10:06 PM
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Alta Loma
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How will you explain that to the GW, you have to write down date killed on the back of you're license now, it's a 1 buck county. One comes back to camp to be skinned and thrown in an ice chest... The other one gets cleaned at the scene of the crime and hidden in an ice chest there....post dated tag to the next day in a neighboring county. Don't mention it to friends or family. I hear you, on the ranch down south this would be a no brainer, but if the guy were on an East Texas lease with 25 guys on it that would be tough. I have friends and family members on a lease a little north of Livingston, you can't fart on that place without someone asking something. The GW has them so scared about these antler restrictions they would throw their mother under the bus to stay on his/her good side, if somebody messes up the GW is called. Now 5 years ago these do gooders were shooting deer caught in hog traps, go figure.
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: Alta Loma]
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08/01/13 10:13 PM
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The ONLY ethical answer is #2
- even though the wording of the question (nice hunting with you) makes it sound like you're being a jerk.
#1 and #3 are both lies and unethical.
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: redchevy]
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08/01/13 10:39 PM
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I voted 1, but it really depends. Im not helping bury and waste it either way. If it was family or a "friend" I really considered a true friend I would tag it and give him some good ribbing for a while. If it was more of a friend as in someone who hung around may just let them deal with it. ^^this^^
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: J.G.]
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08/01/13 10:43 PM
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option #4, stab your buddy with a shed antler killing him, that way you can say he died fighting the deer and he won't have to endure the shame of getting kicked off the lease
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: Alta Loma]
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08/01/13 11:04 PM
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rifleman
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How will you explain that to the GW, you have to write down date killed on the back of you're license now, it's a 1 buck county. One comes back to camp to be skinned and thrown in an ice chest... The other one gets cleaned at the scene of the crime and hidden in an ice chest there....post dated tag to the next day in a neighboring county. Don't mention it to friends or family. I hear you, on the ranch down south this would be a no brainer, but if the guy were on an East Texas lease with 25 guys on it that would be tough. I have friends and family members on a lease a little north of Livingston, you can't fart on that place without someone asking something. The GW has them so scared about these antler restrictions they would throw their mother under the bus to stay on his/her good side, if somebody messes up the GW is called. Now 5 years ago these do gooders were shooting deer caught in hog traps, go figure. That's the kind of leases I was raised on just north of there..but were 40-80 members. You'd be suprised what ppl don't know.
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: dkershen]
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08/01/13 11:17 PM
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Slow Drifter
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#1 I don't hunt with anyone who wouldn't do the same for me. Mistakes happen. I burn a tag, everything's back in balance. Disposing of the deer just makes it two crimes. But, #4, is there a smoker in camp?
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: J.G.]
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08/02/13 12:09 AM
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I voted 1, but it really depends. Im not helping bury and waste it either way. If it was family or a "friend" I really considered a true friend I would tag it and give him some good ribbing for a while. If it was more of a friend as in someone who hung around may just let them deal with it. Same for me here. Walter
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: Wburke2010]
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08/02/13 12:27 AM
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stxranchman
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Leave the deer lay till he calls the GW out and explain his dilema at the location. Let the GW handle it with me their with him.
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: stxranchman]
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08/02/13 03:31 AM
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A good friend wouldn't put you in that position. He would do the right thing and call the game warden himself and take his medicine.
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: NDN98]
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08/02/13 03:56 AM
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Personally I would never put anyone in that situation. I would just deal with it at the time and take both deer in to the processor or do one myself if the game warden was not around to take my phone call. What do I do, call operation game thief on myself? My game manager can figure it out on his own. Don't need to put a lie in front of another lie. He would probably check out both kill sites not hearing two shots.
Your fines will probably not be more than the lease fee and taking your buddies tag is basically wasting his money so you are both screwed. What is the point in that???
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: LandPirate]
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08/02/13 12:43 PM
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catslayer
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the depends for me is how I feel the game manager will respond and if he is an understanding guy or not... basically my relationship with him is the deciding factor
I would never bury it
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: LandPirate]
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08/02/13 12:55 PM
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The problem is the "buddy" failed to verify what was behind his target wether he was excited or what have you. I beleave he is not very concious hunter. how would you handel it if he shot through and hit another hunter or a child? I beleave that is one of the rules to the hunter education corse.
Last edited by cyberpyrot; 08/02/13 12:57 PM.
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: cyberpyrot]
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08/02/13 12:58 PM
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cameron00
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I'd bury the body if it were another hunter or child.
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: cameron00]
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08/02/13 01:35 PM
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Washington Ag
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Yeah option d needs to be filet and release. No sense in wasting the meat.
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: Washington Ag]
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08/02/13 04:06 PM
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Jordan A
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All of you who wouldn't help out a friend are not the kind of people I would want to be friends with.
“If you turn the imagination loose like a hunting dog, it will often return with the bird in its mouth.” -William Maxwell
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: Jordan A]
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08/02/13 04:31 PM
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Txduckman
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Let me guess, you are around 20 years old and expect people to do stuff for you. It's called responsibility which some people lack.
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: Txduckman]
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08/02/13 05:11 PM
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rifleman
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Waiting on a warden to arrive could allow the deer to spoil...who wants that to happen. BTW, I plan on setting my cruise on 85 and rolling North today, think I'll call ahead to the towns and tell them to just mail me my tickets.
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: redchevy]
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08/03/13 12:57 AM
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I voted 1, but it really depends. Im not helping bury and waste it either way. If it was family or a "friend" I really considered a true friend I would tag it and give him some good ribbing for a while. If it was more of a friend as in someone who hung around may just let them deal with it. Yup. Also depends on size of buck
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: Humannpower]
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08/03/13 03:24 AM
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Cannon
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I might try to tie the 2nd buck to some sort of zipline apparatus and zing him across the feeder area of someone else on the lease so they'd think they shot him.
Weekend at Bernies style. Just the visual of a buck tied to zipline flying through the air is just hilarious X2 - I might want to try it w/o any unlawful activity!
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: chital_shikari]
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08/03/13 03:25 AM
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Cannon
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I voted 1, but it really depends. Im not helping bury and waste it either way. If it was family or a "friend" I really considered a true friend I would tag it and give him some good ribbing for a while. If it was more of a friend as in someone who hung around may just let them deal with it. Yup. Also depends on size of buck If I'm burning my tag, I'm taking the bigger one
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Re: Hunting Ethics - Scenario #1
[Re: Cannon]
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08/03/13 03:26 AM
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chital_shikari
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I might try to tie the 2nd buck to some sort of zipline apparatus and zing him across the feeder area of someone else on the lease so they'd think they shot him.
Weekend at Bernies style. Just the visual of a buck tied to zipline flying through the air is just hilarious X2 - I might want to try it w/o any unlawful activity!
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