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One less water moccasin #4356590 07/01/13 02:21 AM
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I got two of them, could only recovery one.


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That's not a water moccasin. Some type of water snake. Looks like a diamondback.

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Originally Posted By: txaggie02
That's not a water moccasin. Some type of water snake. Looks like a diamondback.


agreed

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whatever you shot, it is expired.

Re: One less water moccasin [Re: txaggie02] #4356693 07/01/13 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted By: txaggie02
That's not a water moccasin. Some type of water snake. Looks like a diamondback.

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Moccasins have a more short and stubby body. Not long and slender one.

Re: One less water moccasin [Re: txaggie02] #4356726 07/01/13 03:37 AM
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It's a good thing you know what your shooting at hahaha.


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I didn't think it was dark enough for a water moccasin either, just not sure what else it would be. It was pissed, I know that. It was for sure an aggressive snake. If any body can identify itbthatvwould be awesome.


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Re: One less water moccasin [Re: MS1454] #4356743 07/01/13 03:46 AM
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Guys,

I just looked at "water moccasins" on google and it certainly looks like a couple in the photos...I always thought they were dark like the one on google but hey also have some that look like the one in the photo above.. stir

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Re: One less water moccasin [Re: Deerhunter61] #4356769 07/01/13 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted By: Deerhunter61
Guys,

I just looked at "water moccasins" on google and it certainly looks like a couple in the photos...I always thought they were dark like the one on google but hey also have some that look like the one in the photo above.. stir


I did the same thing, i'm with you now. I go back to my previous statement and say one less water moccisan!!! Prove me wrong..


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I think cottonmouths and water snakes look alike by markings and color but the cottonmouth is definitely a short stubby snake. They all water cobras to me though, good shootin!

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Guys,

I just looked at "water moccasins" on google and it certainly looks like a couple in the photos...I always thought they were dark like the one on google but hey also have some that look like the one in the photo above.. stir


I did the same thing, i'm with you now. I go back to my previous statement and say one less water moccisan!!! Prove me wrong..

It's a diamondback water snake. I killed tons of those things growing up. Trust me on this. Google "diamondback water snake" and you will see exactly what you killed.

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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?rd=1&word=water+moccasins

Look at definition 2
Water moccasin it term that includes all water snakes.
COTTONMOUTH is a specific snake.

However the term MOCCASIN has been used mostly to just (incorrectly) describe a cottonmouth. It seems most people don't know that it includes all water snakes.


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I don't really care what freedictionary.com says. Nobody considers a blotched, broad-banded, yellow-bellied, or diamondback water snake a water moccasin. Nobody.

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Nice kill, BUT, A water moccasin(cottonmouth) has a triangle "viper" head




and they're going to be thick, not thin




I know alot of folks around here preach to let a good snake go, but I havent found a good use for any kind of water snake, yet....


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Me either. They can still cause infection if you are bitten.

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That beats all, an anorexic water moccasin...

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Does anybody know the difference between male and female sizes because there was two of them and the other was way thicker. Once I got it on dry ground it came at me striking, looked a lot like that last pic above just not as dark colored.


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That's a water snake, not a water moccasin. Trust me, I've killed plenty of moccasins (cottonmouths).

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So I looked up diamond back water snake and it defiantly could have been that. I'm a big game hunting guide, not a snake expert, all I know is that myself and my dogs swim and fish in the water where it was killed regularly and I'm not Abigail fan of either of us getting bit. It looked like a moccasin to me, now it just looks like a dead snake.


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Re: One less water moccasin [Re: TnT Taxidermist] #4357175 07/01/13 01:50 PM
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looks like a moccasin to me and i have killed more than my share of them. Good job

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Dead snake


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not a moccasin, better to let them go

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Originally Posted By: west-tex
looks like a moccasin to me and i have killed more than my share of them. Good job


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Fine work on that diamondbackwatercobrarattlermambapython

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For some reason all those water snakes (venomous or not) are grumpier than Paula Deen watching BET. bolt


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It's all in the head.

Pit vipers (like WMs) have a triangular shaped head. Other snakes do not. The only poisonous snake native to North America that is not a pit viper is a coral snake. The others (WM, copperheads, and rattlesnakes) are pit vipers with a triangular shaped head.

That is not a WM.


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Pretty simple if you are from east of 45, its a water snake not a CM. Yall live with them so you know the difference.

If you are from west of 35 and it doesn't have a blue belly or isn't a bull snake and its in the water, and has a nasty temper its a WM. Good snakes in west tx are playful snakes, that eat other snakes





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Originally Posted By: TnT Outfitters
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Guys,

I just looked at "water moccasins" on google and it certainly looks like a couple in the photos...I always thought they were dark like the one on google but hey also have some that look like the one in the photo above.. stir


I did the same thing, i'm with you now. I go back to my previous statement and say one less water moccisan!!! Prove me wrong..
It's not a "Pit viper". no triangular head, too long and skinny. Banded water snake.


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Good job right there!

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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
It's all in the head.

Pit vipers (like WMs) have a triangular shaped head. Other snakes do not. The only poisonous snake native to North America that is not a pit viper is a coral snake. The others (WM, copperheads, and rattlesnakes) are pit vipers with a triangular shaped head.

That is not a WM.


Yep. That's what we live by at my house. My kids know the difference.

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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
It's all in the head.

Pit vipers (like WMs) have a triangular shaped head. Other snakes do not. The only poisonous snake native to North America that is not a pit viper is a coral snake. The others (WM, copperheads, and rattlesnakes) are pit vipers with a triangular shaped head.

That is not a WM.


^^^This

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Originally Posted By: Gumbeaux
For some reason all those water snakes (venomous or not) are grumpier than Paula Deen watching BET. bolt


They are pretty pissy snakes.....had one in the middle of my road a while back & I tried to get him out of the way but he kept trying to bite me so I just let him go. angel

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They are on the move this time of year feasting on all these frogs around my place.

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That last pic looks like a moccasin to me

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Also, cottonmouths, like all pit vipers including rattlesnakes and copperheads (but not coral snakes), have vertical pupils like cat eyes.

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Also, cottonmouths, like all pit vipers including rattlesnakes and copperheads (but not coral snakes), have vertical pupils like cat eyes.

Look'em in the eye before you shoot'em



Yeah not gonna happen, if I can tell what their eyes look like they are way to darn close.


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Largest WM I have ever killed or seen. Yes, I looked at his eyes (after he was dead) and pulled out his fangs just to make sure. He was a monster of a WM. if you look close, that a 17HMR hole in the back of his head. Last year kill but kept pics since he was the largest I have seen.




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Came across a post on another hunting forum about a Cottonhead, which is a cross between a cottonmouth and a copperhead.


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Largest WM I have ever killed or seen. Yes, I looked at his eyes (after he was dead) and pulled out his fangs just to make sure. He was a monster of a WM. if you look close, that a 17HMR hole in the back of his head. Last year kill but kept pics since he was the largest I have seen.





That's a huge WM! I've never seen one that big. eeks333

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Fine work on that diamondbackwatercobrarattlermambapython


That's what I'm talking about!!


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