Then I won't tell you about the AR10 and 1911 lowers I bough at the same time.....but MAY have some for sale later.

If you know what you are doing, chose good parts and a barrel from a reputable company, your "Frankengun" can and will be better than 95 percent of the off the shelf ARs.

Unfortunately, most folks don't....

Well that was the cheap part now I need to find a press or a mill

Alright, so explain this 80% AR lower to me. Someone told me you can get an 80% lower, and mill it out yourself to make it in whatever you want- full auto, semi-auto. that seamed fishy to me. What's the deal with an 80% lower and the regulations on them?

The ATF has a designation that anything beyond 80% finished is legally a receiver and is a controlled part. There is no law against building a gun for personal use, regardless as to being a scratch build or starting with a partially finished receiver. All NFA rules still apply so you can't build a machine gun out of it without being a SOT, and you can't build a SBR without a Form 1.

Basically the ATF has specific rules that dictate what, explicitly, a gun is. More precisely, they say when a hunk of metal officially becomes a firearm.

80% lowers means that per ATF rules, the metal is still a hunk a metal and isn't regarded as a gun. Currently, there are no laws that say an individual can't make their own firearm. The laws only state that they can't be distributed unless they have a serial number and identifying marks.

With 80% lowers you can get the "hunk of metal" do slightly more work to it so that it accepts an LPK and trigger system, and then you have a fully functional lower. The ATF says that the lower is the only part that is considered a "firearm". Same for 1911.

So basically, if you get a 80% lower you can do a little more work to it and make it an AR, more specifically, since you made it, you don't have to register it and the government won't even know they exist.

Now, as far as the fully auto thing.... that is still illegal. But the interweb consensus says that what the feds don't know, won't hurt them. That's probably what they were talking about.

Please let me know, if you decide to sell any, I went to go buy one of each (ar10, ar15 and 1911) and all of this crap exploded so I was left out to dry and don't want to back order.

http://www.rockethub.com/projects/27439-ar-lower-80-manufacturing

Here you go $35 80% lowers

did not know this existed. Is it legit?

I haven't received my lowers yet but seems legit to me. Basically there's going to be a bit of a wait as they have to wait until they are fully funded then acquire machines/materials and then start banging out lowers.

Here you go...http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/611082_Rockethub_80__Lower_Receiver_Projects___Update_05_23_2013__.html

This is why it seems fishy to me. I wouldn't want to be pulled over and searched with an AR with no serial numbers. I have heard of guys doing this. I just do not know anythign about it.

That's what bothers me too!

Well you could always have one put on if it really bothers you but nobody should be checking for serial #'s anyway. Unless I am committing a crime I can't see any reason why the police would be running the serial # on one of my rifles.

Hmmm... I think I'll hold off on those then until I can do some more research. Thanks for the info.

Nothings stopping you from tossing one on there.

http://www.tacticalmachining.com/80-lower-receiver.html

I have engraved mine with my initials, birthday, and sequence