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Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: redchevy] #42141 12/14/05 02:26 AM
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One of my lease hunters shot a hog three times in the head with a .308 from close range and it was still standing. Got that on video. Would have to see a hog shot and killed with a .22lr to believe it. Not saying your lying...just don't believe it!!

Here's the photo.




Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: redchevy] #42142 12/14/05 04:59 AM
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I know they can be tough animals, but all the stuff about 3 head shots with a .308 and still running around, and needing a .35 whelen, or 45-70, or .375 H&H is complete bull s***.




I sure hope your not calling me a liar!!! I have video of that hog taking 3 shots in the head with a .308. If anything is bulls***, it's someone telling others that they can kill a hog with a .22lr or suggesting that someone even try!!!


Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: txcornhusker] #42143 12/14/05 12:35 PM
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No i'm not calling you a liar, I just find it hard to believe just like you. I see it very posible and have also seen it happen, but not with a good shot, when you shoot their jaw or the end of their nose off it happens, but if you have a "good" head shot with anything biger than a .223 they should be DRT. Oh yeah and im not suggesting that i can kill hogs with a .22, i do and it works for me and i never said anything about others trying. Damn how did this post go from using a 9mm to kill a hog to this, I'm out of this and hope you have a good day.

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Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: redchevy] #42144 12/14/05 03:09 PM
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What do you mean how did it come to this? Are you serious?!? I took offense b/c you said my post was bulls***. Posted the quote! None of the three shots blew the nose off or whatever you were implying. Look at the picture.

You have a good day too.


Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: txcornhusker] #42145 01/06/06 04:16 PM
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I helped a friend slaughter and butcher three 50lb hogs recently. I shot the first one between the eyes with a 22lr and he dropped and then got up and walked around like nothing happend.

I put the second shot into the side of his head between his eye and ear and he dropped.

Shot the other two in the side of the head and they went down as well.

I've also taken hogs with a 223 and they went down with one shot.

I have an AR-15 with a 9mm conversion and would not hesitate to take a hog with it using hard ball ammo within 50 yards but only if I could get a clean shot to the side of the head or a spine shot.

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Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: txcornhusker] #42146 01/06/06 09:34 PM
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In school they teach us head shots are unethical because it’s very hard to hit something vital in the head. It seems like head shots would be the way to go but I guess it's not. If you hit the brain and he stood then that is truly amazing. I guess that is why vital shots are so popular because eventually physics and biology will catch up. I don't know why anybody would shoot a hog with a .22 rim fire anyways??? I once shot a 250lber in my favorite spot (right behind the ear) and I went and got the truck and when I got back a few minutes latter he was trying to get up. Another time I shot one in the @$$ with a 300wsm and a few weeks latter I saw him again and finished him off. His hindquarter was the most awful thing I have ever smelt or seen but he lived for a few weeks after a hit with a .30 caliber.


Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: justin7-11] #42147 01/07/06 01:14 PM
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justin7-11,

Please re-read my post. I was not hunting with a 22lr, I was killing 3 penned hogs to butcher and we used a 22 so as not to disturb the neighbors.

The point about the 22 is that a frontal head shot did not penetrate where the side head shots did.

Shot placement is the most important factor regardless of caliber used.

Why would you shoot a hog in the @$$ then let him suffer for a few weeks?


Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: GaryA] #42148 01/10/06 07:30 PM
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behind the ear in a pen a 22 will work on smaller hogs. I have done this several times. But 3 weeks ago I hit a approx 450 or bigger with my 7 mag. Flipped him, he kicked and screamed for about a 10 sec then jumped up and ran off. tracked him about a mile with dogs and found him hung up in wire. Seems he still had enough to run away but not enough to bust fences. Anyway it's all a crap shoot when hog hunting. Some bite back some run and hide. That what makes hunting on foot at night fun. IMO


Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: Skybuster05] #42149 01/10/06 08:02 PM
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Anyway it's all a crap shoot when hog hunting. Some bite back some run and hide. That what makes hunting on foot at night fun. IMO




That's right!!


Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: txcornhusker] #42150 01/11/06 08:43 PM
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Goin' hog huntin' this weekend. My buddy and I are taking a 30-30 and a .30 caliber M1. We are hoping that will do the job. He killed one a few years back that weighed about 250-275 with his 7MM. Dropped it in it's tracks. I would hate to be out there with just a .22. Especially my single shot! NO THANKS!


Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: txcornhusker] #42151 01/11/06 08:46 PM
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I am going hog hunting this weekend and I am taking a M-1 carbine. I am shooting a FMJ at 110 grain. I know that shot placement is important but can a heart/lung shot do the trick. I shot one two years ago with a 7mm and fell where I shot him. Now that I am using a smaller cal. will it do the trick without having to chase him for a week? (buckmark) you stole my post. How funny that we posted the same thing at the same time.


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Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: redraider99] #42152 01/13/06 04:42 PM
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The m1 carbine has worked great for us in the past, it is a fast handling and shooting gun, and packs enough punch, however I would go with the soft points, not the full meatal jacket bullets, FMJ has no expansion, and therefore makes a poor hunting bullet.

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Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: redchevy] #42153 01/17/06 12:30 AM
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Redchevy,
Thanks for the advice, but I read your comment just a little too late. Just got back yesterday. The M1 did work great;I used FMJs. I will remember the soft points for next time. The only problem that I had was that I could not use the peep sight. We walked up on them just as it was dark, and I could not see through the peep site. So I had to point and shoot. I will post the story and pics in the photo section in the next couple of days (unless Buckmark beats me to the punch)(Hunting buddy that I went with).


Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: redchevy] #42154 02/07/06 11:14 PM
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I'm not in a position to doubt anybody's word here, so I'm not. But I've hunted enough hogs that when somebody says they regularly do it with a .22, the words "death wish" come to mind. I've come closer to getting messed up than I ever want to, even after putting 2 rounds from a 30-30 in the right place.

Accidentally shot a little dog with a 9mm about 30 years ago (trying to scare a pack away from my breeding bitch, who was in heat... aimed into the trees over the pack, and my WWII era P38 shot about 7 feet low) - bullet passed right through without hitting anything critical, and the dog survived with only a limp to show for it. Got rid of the gun... it almost paid for the stray's vet bill. So much for killing power.

Granted, I killed my first deer many years ago with a Ruger .22 pistol, but I darn sure wouldn't call it a deer gun.


Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: redchevy] #42155 02/22/06 05:14 PM
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Yep pigs probably wont attack ya and can be killed with a 22 or 17 etc. I did have one big sow run at me. Not sure if she was attacking or just running when we jumped them. She was snapping her jaws. She took 4 shots of 00 buck to the head area before she finally died. There was buck shot in her toung and coming out the mouth from me shooting down on her as she was coming. Probably no more than 10 ft when it all started.
I mainly use slugs now. Shotgun only area and I dont have confidence in buck shot at anything over 25 yds.



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Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: RonKaye] #42156 02/22/06 08:14 PM
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I know a 22 isnt a great choice, and if I am going hunting for hogs I will always go for something bigger, with that said we do alot of coon hunting, and see alot of hogs in the process, thus we shoot hogs with a 22. We have never had any of them get away, we have never killed more than one at a time with it but it does work. Since then we have started to pack two guns, the 22 and a deer rifle, and a 45 colt just incase we need to finish one off not because we are scared of them attaking us(have never come close to needing to use the 45)

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Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: redchevy] #42157 02/24/06 02:05 AM
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Redchevy: There is nothing like experience! You haven't experienced it yet, but there will come a day or night, if you do it long enough, that you will eventually change your mind, and run into one of those Sherman tanks! Always expect the unexpected, and being prepared is just wise!




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Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: Jimbo] #42158 02/24/06 02:41 AM
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GOOD advise there Jimbo!!


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I think I am pretty experienced, and if I still have something to learn it isnt going to be from the people who think I need to carry an anti aircraft gun along with me to kill a pig. No we havent killed any monster hogzillas, but up to about 250 dressed, most of them have been shot with a 222, or a 22 hornet, not by us but by the owners of the property, and they were all one shot kills, Again I am not saying these are the guns of choice, but they work. yall need to step back and look at how experienced you think you are and actualy put the bullet were it counts because if you do they die. Man I was really hoping this post would die, this forum is suposed to be a friendly and fun place, but some know it alls just cant leave well enough alone.

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Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: redchevy] #42160 02/24/06 05:41 PM
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Hey redchevy this thread hasn't even reached 4 or 5 pages yet, not all of the know-it-alls have spoke up yet. These one here looks to be still friendly, do you think the black panther topic is ever going the die, I DOUBT IT.


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I DOUGHT IT.



Okay Dgilbert, are we warming up the oven for a little bread or what? Bet I know what HuskerSanta's getting you for Christmas.


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Got me on that one.


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I just caught up on this post after quite some time of not looking.

My observation is that Redchevy is the one causing the trouble here. Just because you've had lots of experience with .22 caliber does NOT mean that the others that think it's not appropriate have no experience killing hogs! You haven't apparently hunted ENOUGH to see it when the 'wheels fall off'! When you get there you'll see what we're all talking about. Till then you need to chill out and quit making all the insinuations about people like TxCornhusker and folks that HAVE put in plenty of time hunting the very critters we're discussing!

A friendly forum... You need to remember that when you make the type of statements that you've made, people are gonna get riled!



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Are you talking to me or redchevy.


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I think if you look I replied to redchevy, not cornhusker.


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