The 6.5X47 Lapua is a nice short fat case.

batesdc got me to smiling when he mentioned his 6.5-270. My cousin has his version, which is a necked down 280 case and he absolutely won't call it anything but a 6.5-280. I keep telling him that it's just a 6.5-06, so why call it anything else. But he's so darn hardheaded and says that HIS parent case is the 280 and he is NOT gonna call it a 6.5-06. Stubborn devil.

Anyway, whatever ya call it, it's a great round. I just happen to have that 260, so I don't need or want anything else. But the cuz sure is stubborn, and he's a darn fine shot.

603Country, hate to tell you that your cousin is correct. There is a difference in the 280 and the 270 brass other than the bullet diameter. The 280 shoulder is a little further forward than is found on the 25-06, 270 or 30-06. That was done so you cannot chamber and fire 280 ammo in a 270

And doesnt make the speed a .260 will

Hmmm, kmon1 might actually be my cousin. Same baloney about the case shoulder being slightly different from that of the PARENT CASE. Just cause somebody changed the shoulder a bit doesn't make it a new case. That's just a new dress on the same girl. LOL

Remington changed that angle, it actually holds a grain or two more powder that the 270, 25-06 and 30-06 base stuff.

Might be sounding like our cousin but the shoulder on a 280 is .050 longer than a 270 or the other members of the 30-06 family.

That is long enough to cause headspace issues when forming brass to a wildcat like the 6.5-06 as apposed to the 6.5-280. It is also long enough that a 280 cannot be chambered in a 270 action and the reason it was done that way.

Geez...now I have even more people to argue this case issue with. Yay! I still say it's the same girl in a new dress.

Not to derail the thread, but Drop Tine, are you using that Remington 700 5r 308 to shoot paper or critters? I want to shoot critters with mine and was wondering what you use. I have a box of 150 grain Barnes TSX but haven't tried to see how well mine likes them. Thanks.

For all practical purposes it is the same, however when forming cases for the wildcat it is a bit more problematic.

Right now I've been shooting Chad's 168 gr Amax. Haven't shot a critter with it yet, but you can find reviews all over the net saying that they are great for hunting. I'll probably try some Accubonds out on some pigs this summer.

Accubonds and Sirocco's are my favorite bullets these days. They both have proven to be accurate in my rifles and terminal performance is very good.

Why argue??? Just get the data. Look in any reloading manual and compare the dimensions. The length of the case from the base to the start of the shoulder is 1.948" for the '06, 270, and 25/06. The length for the 280 is 1.999". So as kmon says, it was lengthened SLIGHTLY by Remington to prevent idiots from firing a 280 cartridge in a 270 rifle.

So the 280 is based on a slightly modified '06 case and is not exactly the same as the wildcat 7MM/06.

And FWIW, the 270 is based on the 06 case, but Winchester gave it a slightly longer neck.

your trivia for the day...

I've got several pics of dead bodies from the A-max. Don't worry about punching hide with em.