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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
[Re: stxranchman]
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03/04/13 01:17 AM
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Justin T
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For towers, a porch is nice. Maybe put some carpet a couple feet up the bottom if the inside of the blind to keep the noise down as well.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 01:19 AM
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So fiberglass is cheap and corners have holes but you can promote a tuna can. I believe by the time you are through sealing and riveting and sound proofing your sheet metal you will be way above affordable cost plus you still have to paint it with a quality paint that will not peel in the sun wind and rain, something that can be added into the fiberglass and will last. 4 X 4 with a minimum 6' ceiling is going to look like a outhouse and that size is going to induce severe heat on a warm day.
Not trying to play Devils Advocate but you were the one who asked for comments and opinions.
tuna can? all welded 18 gauge metal blinds isn't a tuna can. not going to be any rivets where the seams meet, gonna be welded I can produce these blinds and offer them at an affordable price to compete with the current blinds on the market. In any case, your not giving any comments or opinions, just throwing out some bullshtye assumptions.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
[Re: blackcoal]
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03/04/13 01:20 AM
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Sounds like a vented roof/soffit is almost a necessity, to allow heat to escape and some air movement. I would also offer a step system that could be added to it to use it as a tower blind because steps are so much nicer than ladders. Padded window ledges would be nice as well but probably not a cheap thing to add.Just a couple thoughts. I dont hunt out of blinds in Iowa but have hunted out of a few down south.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
[Re: txtrophy85]
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03/04/13 01:21 AM
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Well the first thing I'll say is 4x4 is just to damn small.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 01:22 AM
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Well the first thing I'll say is 4x4 is just to damn small. that was my thought at first....but alot of blinds being sold are 4x4's. I may end up doing a 5x5
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 01:23 AM
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Sounds like a vented roof/soffit is almost a necessity, to allow heat to escape and some air movement. I would also offer a step system that could be added to it to use it as a tower blind because steps are so much nicer than ladders. Padded window ledges would be nice as well but probably not a cheap thing to add.Just a couple thoughts. I dont hunt out of blinds in Iowa but have hunted out of a few down south. the heat escapes thru the windows when you open them
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
[Re: txtrophy85]
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03/04/13 01:26 AM
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You do know that this blind concept was tried about 10-13 yrs ago now don't you. It failed back then.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 01:26 AM
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I'm not sure how much welding you've done but if you plan on welding these out full length good luck. 16 ga distorts and buckles enough as it is, any thing lighter is a nightmare. I would seriously look at a good portable spot welder with extended arms.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 01:28 AM
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You do know that this blind concept was tried about 10-13 yrs ago now don't you. It failed back then. hmmmm,no I didn't who made them?
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 01:29 AM
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I'm not sure how much welding you've done but if you plan on wlding these out full legth good luck. 16 ga distorts and buckles enough as it is, any thing lighter is a nightmare. I would seriously look at a good portable spot welder with extended arms. the welding is a non-issue here is a 4x4 that is a big seller BTW http://www.mummesinc.com/hunting_blinds_stands_dillon_4_x4_fiberglass_blind.aspx
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 01:34 AM
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You do know that this blind concept was tried about 10-13 yrs ago now don't you. It failed back then. hmmmm,no I didn't who made them? The company you sell feeders for now.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 01:38 AM
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We have a blind made out of 18 gauge sheet metal and I HATE it. It is extremely loud to get into because the door fits so tightly it makes a gong sound when opened. Closing it presents a similar problem. As it warms up in the sun light, it begins to make popping sounds as the sheet metal heats and expands. Even with foam board insulation, the slightest movement has the potential to spook anything within ear shot. I would never buy another metal stand.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 01:42 AM
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As it warms up in the sun light, it begins to make popping sounds as the sheet metal heats and expands. Even with foam board insulation, the slightest movement has the potential to spook anything within ear shot. . you do realize that this happens whether your in the blind or not. We used to have metal blinds and I could kick the side of the blind and the deer never looked up because these blinds make noise all by themselves. However, I do realize that many do not understand/want this "feature" and am going to try and circumvent it in some way.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 02:11 AM
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I was gonna say the same thing. If your blind is out there long enough the animals get used to the noises.
I don't know if it would help and May be to expensive, but what about bedliner or herculiner roll on or spray on. Would that help with the noise?
I have a 4x4 plastic big game tower stand. I'm 6'2. It is small but it was cheap and works. I did also by the big game porch and its pretty sweet. Its 4x4 also.
I am going to have to weld together some braces to make a better support system on the inside. Good luck
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 02:13 AM
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I can rhino line it, no problem.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 02:22 AM
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To start with, you may want to offer two heights. I'm 6'3" and like headroom. However I've sat many hours in 5' tall blinds. Exterior galvanized sheet. Windows 24"x12" centered on the three walls w/o door. Tops 52" above floor with shelves maybe 36" high, wrapping around blind. Optional second set of shelves just above windows. Awnings are a must. Spray lined interior with sheet insulation on walls and ceiling. Floors, maybe expanded metal to make changing plywood simple. Legs, pipe to make changing height easy. Not that I'd ever put any thought into making a blind that would last.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 02:36 AM
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What ever you do, put a freaking chair in the blind, sit in the chair, and see if you can shoot out of the chair.
Then have a 10 year old sit in a chair and do the same thing. I can tell you my biggest issue with blinds is window placement. I am pretty sure that most blind manufactures do not hunt out of their own blinds or have kids that do. Very few seem to get the fact that the primary point of a blind is to put a gun out of the WINDOW and shoot a deer...
Window placement, Window placement, Window placement!!!
I think you should consider WINDOW PLACEMENT!!!
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 02:41 AM
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The other thing you should really consider is putting a solar panel and a car battery in the blind with a couple of 12 Volt Outlets, so you can plug in a Phone Charger, or Fan, or Heater, or Spot Light, or...
Can not tell you how many times I have been sitting in a stand for hours texting, taking pictures, looking at THF only for my phone to die...
Also would be handy to spot light hogs or have other little 12 Volt Accessories...
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 02:41 AM
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What ever you do, put a freaking chair in the blind, sit in the chair, and see if you can shoot out of the chair.
Then have a 10 year old sit in a chair and do the same thing. I can tell you my biggest issue with blinds is window placement. I am pretty sure that most blind manufactures do not hunt out of their own blinds or have kids that do. Very few seem to get the fact that the primary point of a blind is to put a gun out of the WINDOW and shoot a deer...
Window placement, Window placement, Window placement!!!
I think you should consider WINDOW PLACEMENT!!! Yep. Agreed.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 02:46 AM
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Might try that composite decking for the floor, wouldn't rot anyway.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 03:07 AM
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Window placement No blind spots in corners My 18 ga blind is loud if you hit the sides or open the windows wrong Modular pc's., The ability to put it together in the field or places where trailers cant go. A shelf or platform at all windows to support a gun to provide solid as a rock platform. 4" Never waste the time on a 4x4 again. Real size men don't fit in a 4x4 blind at all. I like small windows even if it takes multiple on one side instead of one large one. I use each window different depending on the day, wind , and how cold it is. Gotta have a solid durable quiet floor that can be swept out Roof atleast 6'6 Big enough for two good chairs.
All to often people adult and kids miss because a stand is good for one but not all. A solid rest, and good chair is a must
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 03:16 AM
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I like my wimmins confined in small blinds.
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 03:18 AM
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 03:32 AM
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I'll tell you that 18 gauge will be too thin for the floor. I made several 5x5 atascosa cloned blinds last year with 14 gauge floors and I never had one that didn't pop somewhere or another regardless of how many welds I laid down underneath. Here's a link to my write up from the first one in case some info in there may help you. http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3619385/1
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Re: OPEN CALL! Opinions needed
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03/04/13 03:41 AM
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Window placement No blind spots in corners My 18 ga blind is loud if you hit the sides or open the windows wrong Modular pc's., The ability to put it together in the field or places where trailers cant go. A shelf or platform at all windows to support a gun to provide solid as a rock platform. 4" Never waste the time on a 4x4 again. Real size men don't fit in a 4x4 blind at all. I like small windows even if it takes multiple on one side instead of one large one. I use each window different depending on the day, wind , and how cold it is. Gotta have a solid durable quiet floor that can be swept out Roof atleast 6'6 Big enough for two good chairs.
All to often people adult and kids miss because a stand is good for one but not all. A solid rest, and good chair is a must Every blind is gonna have a blind spot somewhere Not gonna be able to do a modular design either Also, I don't know of any blinds available that have a roof that is 6'6.
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