Forums46
Topics546,087
Posts9,831,118
Members87,690
|
Most Online25,604 Feb 12th, 2024
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: Closed Traverse]
#4103356
03/06/13 12:36 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,087
Jasb
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,087 |
Sounds a lot like the stop and frisk policy.
Seems awful close a police state and if they can stop you because you have a gun on you, next they will stop you because you are on the street, or in your car, or just for fun. Then they will want to search your home.
Slippery slope. The cops stopped him because he was doing nothing wrong?
How does that not sit funny with all of yall?
And he was not rude, he was just uncooperative, just as the police officer failed to recognize his rights and let him on his way.
Not even close to what your saying since the cops got called. Do you have any clue as to how many calls cops go on that there is nothing wrong when they get there? Im not getting your point. So if you get a call about a man just driving his vehicle (nothing illegal about it), you go and pull the man over because yall got a call about him doing something that is perfectly legal? That doesn't sound screwed up to you? And the call was not that the man was shooting in the street, or waving his gun around. All he was doing was walking down the street with one on his hip. Since I dont have a clue what the calling party told dispatch I cant answer that. But if someone calls the police on a matter that isnt a crime chances are the police will not show up. Tons of people make stuff up in order to get the cops to go or to go faster. If someone in Texas is walking down the street with a rifle (legal) the police will show up, and thats not a crime. I'd just walk up and talk to the guy and if all seems fine then I'd leave. If he was intoxicated or had other issues then there would be more to it. But to your question if a call came in about a man driving down the road doing nothing wrong I'd laugh and go about my business.
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: bigpigtx]
#4103479
03/06/13 02:01 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,921
sprinkler specialist
OP
Pro Tracker
|
OP
Pro Tracker
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,921 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVf4dwN1SJwThat's how you do it! I think it's funny that the same people who want to build a border fence and put hundreds more agents on the border have such a problem with checkpoints. Fiscally they're much more cost effective. understanding that these check points are not on the border, but 30-50 miles away from it.
Do it once, do it right! The Sprinkler Specialist of Dallas 469-576-1969 skype me @ sprinklerspecialist
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: sprinkler specialist]
#4103605
03/06/13 02:46 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 8,303
J.P. Greeson
the janitor
|
the janitor
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 8,303 |
Damned if you do ... damned if you don't. We have a problem on our southern borders with illegals and drugs. The checkpoints are an effort to try and combat the situation. I go through those security check stations pretty often while fishing Falcon and Amistad and have always found the agents to be easy to deal with. I don't mind being asked if I am a US citizen, but I also don't believe it is unreasonable to have to present a photo ID when you are voting.
Are the check points any less legal than a DWI sting on New Year's Eve?
“Wildlife and its habitat cannot speak, so we must and we will.” – Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
#4103759
03/06/13 03:44 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 27,091
Nogalus Prairie
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 27,091 |
Damned if you do ... damned if you don't. We have a problem on our southern borders with illegals and drugs. The checkpoints are an effort to try and combat the situation. I go through those security check stations pretty often while fishing Falcon and Amistad and have always found the agents to be easy to deal with. I don't mind being asked if I am a US citizen, but I also don't believe it is unreasonable to have to present a photo ID when you are voting.
Are the check points any less legal than a DWI sting on New Year's Eve? Neither are illegal. But they do rely on voluntary cooperation and consent as you can see. Because most people freely give it, they work. But, when people choose to stand on their rights (i.e. no reasonable suspicion to detain or probable cause to arrest) then LE is required let people go about their business. It's just our Constitutional republic in action. Many DWI checkpoints now have a judge either there or available by phone so warrants for a blood draw can be issued on the spot for those who refuse a breathalyzer or the field sobriety tests. But, again, the officer must articulate probable cause for the warrant.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
#4104036
03/06/13 05:28 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,085
Don Dial
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,085 |
What most do not realize is that the checkpoints are in very remote areas in most cases or just outside of Border Towns where the traffic can be isolated..I've seen the around Sierra Blanca, Encinal, Miranda City, ect..There are so many ways into our Country in rural areas that the law enforcement has to get where they can do the most good..We got stopped Dove hunting one yr on a dirt side road on Baylor Ranch near Sierra Blanca, BP thought we were trying to run the roadblock, never realized we were hunting and looking for varmits ect..thank goodness on private prop..as we did have some BEER..DD
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: Don Dial]
#4104372
03/06/13 07:50 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,921
sprinkler specialist
OP
Pro Tracker
|
OP
Pro Tracker
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,921 |
What most do not realize is that the checkpoints are in very remote areas in most cases or just outside of Border Towns where the traffic can be isolated..I've seen the around Sierra Blanca, Encinal, Miranda City, ect..There are so many ways into our Country in rural areas that the law enforcement has to get where they can do the most good..We got stopped Dove hunting one yr on a dirt side road on Baylor Ranch near Sierra Blanca, BP thought we were trying to run the roadblock, never realized we were hunting and looking for varmits ect..thank goodness on private prop..as we did have some BEER..DD still lucky, they took the neighbor to jail for mowing his yard blowing a .93..he said "it was my 3rd beer and didnt even think i was drunk, besides why would they arrest me on my own property"...well they did. he got $10k in court cost, fines, madd, lawyer, probation every month..pay pay pay.
Do it once, do it right! The Sprinkler Specialist of Dallas 469-576-1969 skype me @ sprinklerspecialist
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: sprinkler specialist]
#4104526
03/06/13 08:48 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,032
Nightbird
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,032 |
What most do not realize is that the checkpoints are in very remote areas in most cases or just outside of Border Towns where the traffic can be isolated..I've seen the around Sierra Blanca, Encinal, Miranda City, ect..There are so many ways into our Country in rural areas that the law enforcement has to get where they can do the most good..We got stopped Dove hunting one yr on a dirt side road on Baylor Ranch near Sierra Blanca, BP thought we were trying to run the roadblock, never realized we were hunting and looking for varmits ect..thank goodness on private prop..as we did have some BEER..DD still lucky, they took the neighbor to jail for mowing his yard blowing a .93..he said "it was my 3rd beer and didnt even think i was drunk, besides why would they arrest me on my own property"...well they did. he got $10k in court cost, fines, madd, lawyer, probation every month..pay pay pay. Why did the cops bother him on his own property? Was he acting suspicious or did someone call him in?
James
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger" Friedrich Nietzsche
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: Nightbird]
#4104766
03/06/13 10:33 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 44,585
RKHarm24
sergeant
|
sergeant
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 44,585 |
they took the neighbor to jail for mowing his yard blowing a .93..he said "it was my 3rd beer and didnt even think i was drunk, besides why would they arrest me on my own property"...well they did. he got $10k in court cost, fines, madd, lawyer, probation every month..pay pay pay. Unless it was proven he was a danger to himself or others, but he is still on his private property in a public view.
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: sprinkler specialist]
#4104880
03/06/13 11:20 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 110,840
dogcatcher
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 110,840 |
still lucky, they took the neighbor to jail for mowing his yard blowing a .93..he said "it was my 3rd beer and didnt even think i was drunk, besides why would they arrest me on my own property"...well they did. he got $10k in court cost, fines, madd, lawyer, probation every month..pay pay pay.
I would like to see the police report on this one, I would bet it could be on the "Best Seller" list of year or maybe the decade.
Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: sprinkler specialist]
#4104897
03/06/13 11:28 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 35,410
Brother in-law
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 35,410 |
What most do not realize is that the checkpoints are in very remote areas in most cases or just outside of Border Towns where the traffic can be isolated..I've seen the around Sierra Blanca, Encinal, Miranda City, ect..There are so many ways into our Country in rural areas that the law enforcement has to get where they can do the most good..We got stopped Dove hunting one yr on a dirt side road on Baylor Ranch near Sierra Blanca, BP thought we were trying to run the roadblock, never realized we were hunting and looking for varmits ect..thank goodness on private prop..as we did have some BEER..DD still lucky, they took the neighbor to jail for mowing his yard blowing a .93..he said "it was my 3rd beer and didnt even think i was drunk, besides why would they arrest me on my own property"...well they did. he got $10k in court cost, fines, madd, lawyer, probation every month..pay pay pay. There is more to it than that TX doesn't do DWI checkpoints.
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: Brother in-law]
#4105264
03/07/13 01:55 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,087
Jasb
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,087 |
What most do not realize is that the checkpoints are in very remote areas in most cases or just outside of Border Towns where the traffic can be isolated..I've seen the around Sierra Blanca, Encinal, Miranda City, ect..There are so many ways into our Country in rural areas that the law enforcement has to get where they can do the most good..We got stopped Dove hunting one yr on a dirt side road on Baylor Ranch near Sierra Blanca, BP thought we were trying to run the roadblock, never realized we were hunting and looking for varmits ect..thank goodness on private prop..as we did have some BEER..DD still lucky, they took the neighbor to jail for mowing his yard blowing a .93..he said "it was my 3rd beer and didnt even think i was drunk, besides why would they arrest me on my own property"...well they did. he got $10k in court cost, fines, madd, lawyer, probation every month..pay pay pay. There is more to it than that TX doesn't do DWI checkpoints. Angelo has insurance check points...
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: RKHarm24]
#4105267
03/07/13 01:56 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,087
Jasb
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,087 |
they took the neighbor to jail for mowing his yard blowing a .93..he said "it was my 3rd beer and didnt even think i was drunk, besides why would they arrest me on my own property"...well they did. he got $10k in court cost, fines, madd, lawyer, probation every month..pay pay pay. Unless it was proven he was a danger to himself or others, but he is still on his private property in a public view. Agree
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: TFF Caribou]
#4112437
03/10/13 05:25 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 857
HeidelbergJaeger
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 857 |
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.- Benjamin Franklin, 1775. Statesman of the new American Republic.
Korea is nothing like Germany, and no amount of Army Modernization propaganda will convince me otherwise. I miss my wife and kids something fierce
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: HeidelbergJaeger]
#4114082
03/11/13 02:18 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 114
DSessom
Woodsman
|
Woodsman
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 114 |
This kid did exactly what all citizens SHOULD do. Maybe it was staged, but it serves a valuable purpose - showing common citizens that they DO have rights and do NOT have to submit to law enforcement officers if they know they are within their rights and have broken no laws. A police officer MUST have PC (probable cause) to detain you, which is exactly why the kid was asking the officer "Do you believe I have committed a crime?". If the answer is "No" then, legally you are free to go and the LEO has no right to continue questioning you.
D. Sessom
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: sprinkler specialist]
#4116027
03/12/13 06:10 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,134
SR025
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,134 |
What most do not realize is that the checkpoints are in very remote areas in most cases or just outside of Border Towns where the traffic can be isolated..I've seen the around Sierra Blanca, Encinal, Miranda City, ect..There are so many ways into our Country in rural areas that the law enforcement has to get where they can do the most good..We got stopped Dove hunting one yr on a dirt side road on Baylor Ranch near Sierra Blanca, BP thought we were trying to run the roadblock, never realized we were hunting and looking for varmits ect..thank goodness on private prop..as we did have some BEER..DD still lucky, they took the neighbor to jail for mowing his yard blowing a .93..he said "it was my 3rd beer and didnt even think i was drunk, besides why would they arrest me on my own property"...well they did. he got $10k in court cost, fines, madd, lawyer, probation every month..pay pay pay. I'm impressed he was still alive after having a BAC of .93
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: DSessom]
#4116031
03/12/13 06:13 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,134
SR025
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,134 |
.
Last edited by SR025; 03/12/13 06:14 AM.
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: SR025]
#4116044
03/12/13 06:45 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 110,840
dogcatcher
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 110,840 |
What most do not realize is that the checkpoints are in very remote areas in most cases or just outside of Border Towns where the traffic can be isolated..I've seen the around Sierra Blanca, Encinal, Miranda City, ect..There are so many ways into our Country in rural areas that the law enforcement has to get where they can do the most good..We got stopped Dove hunting one yr on a dirt side road on Baylor Ranch near Sierra Blanca, BP thought we were trying to run the roadblock, never realized we were hunting and looking for varmits ect..thank goodness on private prop..as we did have some BEER..DD still lucky, they took the neighbor to jail for mowing his yard blowing a .93..he said "it was my 3rd beer and didnt even think i was drunk, besides why would they arrest me on my own property"...well they did. he got $10k in court cost, fines, madd, lawyer, probation every month..pay pay pay. I'm impressed he was still alive after having a BAC of .93 I think it was the powers of the Al Gore Internet healthcare system in action...
Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: sprinkler specialist]
#4118446
03/13/13 12:03 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,087
Jasb
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,087 |
Five things you have to have to have a DWI in the state of Texas. 1. A person 2. Operates 3. A motor vehicle 4. In public 5. While intoxicated. Sec 49.04 (I think ) of the Texas Penal Code.
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: Jasb]
#4119090
03/13/13 05:10 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 44,585
RKHarm24
sergeant
|
sergeant
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 44,585 |
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: RKHarm24]
#4119133
03/13/13 05:36 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,412
Dragonuv
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,412 |
I THINK I CRAP MY PANTS! Lmao...too funny.
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: Dragonuv]
#4120282
03/14/13 03:02 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 643
IHateFeralPigs
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 643 |
RWH24's links and postings are some of the most informative pieces of information on THF...and damn funny too....thank you for the info..
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: IHateFeralPigs]
#4121793
03/14/13 09:51 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,921
sprinkler specialist
OP
Pro Tracker
|
OP
Pro Tracker
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,921 |
i thought the tazer was less lethal....he didnt even try to apprehend him...he just popped his azzz..and he pooped his azz
Do it once, do it right! The Sprinkler Specialist of Dallas 469-576-1969 skype me @ sprinklerspecialist
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: sprinkler specialist]
#4122383
03/15/13 03:17 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,412
Dragonuv
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,412 |
I went to show a friend the op's video, and for some reason, on 3 different computers, it says there is any error loading, yet other unrelated videos play fine. Did someone higher up get ahold of them?
Last edited by Dragonuv; 03/15/13 03:51 AM.
|
|
|
Re: Cop gets owned by law student
[Re: Dragonuv]
#4122430
03/15/13 03:48 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 681
E-Cigrettman
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 681 |
The guy in the video has all kind of videos about being drunk on a lawn mower and getting arrested. He's even got one stealing a squad car and another one getting arrested driving a scissor lift down the road. His name is Steve the lawnmower guy.
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, hetman, jeh7mmmag, JustWingem, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, rifleman, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, txcornhusker
|