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Re: The LF vs. HF Talk [Re: Mike Honcho] #3989952 01/25/13 12:18 AM
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This AGAIN!!!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!?

Originally Posted By: jorge
Where's lil chit? We need his expert commentary lol. If you read this lil chit it's always all in fun! Have a good day at school tomorrow.
LOL just saw it now man.

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For the record, HF rocks. grin
But in all seriousness, animal behavior is not molded or shaped by the height of the fence they are enclosed in.

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Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
But in all seriousness, animal behavior is not molded or shaped by the height of the fence they are enclosed in.


u should have just stayed away.


Originally Posted By: cameron00
If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
Re: The LF vs. HF Talk [Re: chital_shikari] #3990018 01/25/13 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
This AGAIN!!!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!?

Originally Posted By: jorge
Where's lil chit? We need his expert commentary lol. If you read this lil chit it's always all in fun! Have a good day at school tomorrow.
LOL just saw it now man.

popcorn

For the record, HF rocks. grin
But in all seriousness, animal behavior is not molded or shaped by the height of the fence they are enclosed in.


It can have an effect, though.

Re: The LF vs. HF Talk [Re: Nogalus Prairie] #3990035 01/25/13 12:49 AM
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I refuse to get into this again beyond this post.

But I simply am calling BS on that first sentence. I am Texas born,Texas raised, and have hunted in Texas for over 40 years. I know many, many people with similar backgrounds. The vast majority of us deplore HF "hunting" and what it is doing to our once-great state for hunting.

So if you haven't heard any negative talk about HF it's either because they are talking behind your back or you are just refusing to listen.

Heck,you've heard alot of negative talk from guys who hunt in Texas just on this forum.

I guess all I am saying is it's fine to try and make your case but don't BS an ol' BSer.




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Re: The LF vs. HF Talk [Re: jshouse] #3990155 01/25/13 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: jshouse
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But in all seriousness, animal behavior is not molded or shaped by the height of the fence they are enclosed in.


u should have just stayed away.
duel hammer clap lol35


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Re: The LF vs. HF Talk [Re: Sneaky] #3990164 01/25/13 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
This AGAIN!!!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!?

Originally Posted By: jorge
Where's lil chit? We need his expert commentary lol. If you read this lil chit it's always all in fun! Have a good day at school tomorrow.
LOL just saw it now man.

popcorn

For the record, HF rocks. grin
But in all seriousness, animal behavior is not molded or shaped by the height of the fence they are enclosed in.


It can have an effect, though.
Maybe.. peep

Re: The LF vs. HF Talk [Re: chital_shikari] #3991318 01/25/13 12:45 PM
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I hate this debate. By biggest problem is painting all HFs with one brush. I don't think you can equate a 1000+ acre tract that happens to have fenced property lines, with shooting deer in a pen. There are just too many variables to discuss HFs in generic terms: native herd/exotics/managed herds/stocked mature deer, etc.... I agree with fair chase, but don't think that is the same thing as HF - LF. By the way, I neither own nor hunt in a HF.

Plus down South I can see non- game reasons why you might want a very high fence, with razor wire.

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Originally Posted By: Cannon
I hate this debate. By biggest problem is painting all HFs with one brush. I don't think you can equate a 1000+ acre tract that happens to have fenced property lines, with shooting deer in a pen. There are just too many variables to discuss HFs in generic terms: native herd/exotics/managed herds/stocked mature deer, etc.... I agree with fair chase, but don't think that is the same thing as HF - LF. By the way, I neither own nor hunt in a HF.

Plus down South I can see non- game reasons why you might want a very high fence, with razor wire.


In terms of personal preference, you are correct.

In terms of right and wrong, there is nothing wrong with a high fence, regardless of size, period. A small enclosure may not be viewed as hunting by many, but there is nothing fundamentally wrong with it. To say that killing a deer inside an enclosure is wrong is to say that the killing of any livestock is wrong. That is unacceptable.

Re: The LF vs. HF Talk [Re: huntnguide83] #3991561 01/25/13 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: huntnguide83
I think I'm going to do a remake of the JG Wentworth commercials. Insert a High fence and put some low fencers on the other side screaming those are my deer and i want them now!



excellent!


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Re: The LF vs. HF Talk [Re: Cannon] #3991588 01/25/13 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Cannon
I hate this debate. By biggest problem is painting all HFs with one brush. I don't think you can equate a 1000+ acre tract that happens to have fenced property lines, with shooting deer in a pen. There are just too many variables to discuss HFs in generic terms: native herd/exotics/managed herds/stocked mature deer, etc.... I agree with fair chase, but don't think that is the same thing as HF - LF. By the way, I neither own nor hunt in a HF.

Plus down South I can see non- game reasons why you might want a very high fence, with razor wire.


Very well said. Some HF's are a freaking joke but most are just guys that love hunting and growing deer.

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Never hunted HF (I'm too cheap), but my only complaints are the really small places (saw one close to Llano for sale advertised as a high-fence hunting ranch-110 acres), and I wonder how many animals were killed during the wildfires because they couldn't escape the fence? I know I've seen pics of dead animals piled up right next to the fence.


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Originally Posted By: toolman
Never hunted HF (I'm too cheap), but my only complaints are the really small places (saw one close to Llano for sale advertised as a high-fence hunting ranch-110 acres), and I wonder how many animals were killed during the wildfires because they couldn't escape the fence? I know I've seen pics of dead animals piled up right next to the fence.


did llano get hit by the fires?


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To those who like HF hunting,knock your self's out. It just doesn't seem sporting knowing the deer cant roam free(no matter how big the property is). Kinda takes the "Sport" out of "Sportsman".

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Originally Posted By: Direct Hit
To those who like HF hunting,knock your self's out. It just doesn't seem sporting knowing the deer cant roam free(no matter how big the property is). Kinda takes the "Sport" out of "Sportsman".


If you've ever eaten beef, knock yourself out.

Re: The LF vs. HF Talk [Re: Sneaky] #3992540 01/25/13 07:41 PM
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To those who like HF hunting,knock your self's out. It just doesn't seem sporting knowing the deer cant roam free(no matter how big the property is). Kinda takes the "Sport" out of "Sportsman".


If you've ever eaten beef, knock yourself out.


Not sure that applies here. Most people who eat beef don't claim to have "hunted" beef.

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To those who like HF hunting,knock your self's out. It just doesn't seem sporting knowing the deer cant roam free(no matter how big the property is). Kinda takes the "Sport" out of "Sportsman".
the Hf ranch i have hunted more than any others was a lease we had, Junco ranch. 48k acres. I think of it just like a 5k acre place a LF lover hunts they have plenty of room to roam and that fence is older than me and not sure how it holds anything in. Now please tell me how HF animals cant roam in that situation.


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just curious, what would a HF cost around 48k acres?


Originally Posted By: cameron00
If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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To those who like HF hunting,knock your self's out. It just doesn't seem sporting knowing the deer cant roam free(no matter how big the property is). Kinda takes the "Sport" out of "Sportsman".


If you've ever eaten beef, knock yourself out.


Not sure that applies here. Most people who eat beef don't claim to have "hunted" beef.


So is it wrong to say you've hunted something if you haven't in the eyes of others? Is that all there is to this? Y'all are so worked up over simple terminology?

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To those who like HF hunting,knock your self's out. It just doesn't seem sporting knowing the deer cant roam free(no matter how big the property is). Kinda takes the "Sport" out of "Sportsman".


If you've ever eaten beef, knock yourself out.


Not sure that applies here. Most people who eat beef don't claim to have "hunted" beef.


So is it wrong to say you've hunted something if you haven't in the eyes of others? Is that all there is to this? Y'all are so worked up over simple terminology?


i think that has a lot to do with it, some get angered by others pride if they think it wasnt earned. and i agree with you, it shouldnt anger "me" at all that "you" are proud of your kill, but it does. goes back to "me" being angry/emotional of the truck you drive or beer you drink, etc..


Originally Posted By: cameron00
If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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Not much difference between the two now the way they're bought and sold. People are just different

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I can appreciate that P&Y and B&C don't recognize HF kills, its the last inkling of hope that one can recognize the difference between farming and hunting wild animals! Its sad that SCI crumbled and allowed HF animals to be entered under certain BS criteria's, that was sadly bought and paid for by all the "Hunting Preserve" activist. Nuff said on this one by me.


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If you've ever eaten beef, knock yourself out.


Not sure that applies here. Most people who eat beef don't claim to have "hunted" beef.


So is it wrong to say you've hunted something if you haven't in the eyes of others? Is that all there is to this? Y'all are so worked up over simple terminology?


i think that has a lot to do with it, some get angered by others pride if they think it wasnt earned. and i agree with you, it shouldnt anger "me" at all that "you" are proud of your kill, but it does. goes back to "me" being angry/emotional of the truck you drive or beer you drink, etc..


Have you ever considered counseling?

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lol, thats what i do for a living, kind of.

while i appreciate your view that everybody should mind their own business and keep their opinions/ideals/values to themselves, they dont.


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I don't think everyone should keep their opinions to themselves. It's just that so many say that high fences are
wrong. I have yet to hear a single reasonable argument for that.

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To those who like HF hunting,knock your self's out. It just doesn't seem sporting knowing the deer cant roam free(no matter how big the property is). Kinda takes the "Sport" out of "Sportsman".


If you've ever eaten beef, knock yourself out.


Not sure that applies here. Most people who eat beef don't claim to have "hunted" beef.


So is it wrong to say you've hunted something if you haven't in the eyes of others? Is that all there is to this? Y'all are so worked up over simple terminology?


Yes, some people would say so. Don't forget how important language is - it literally holds our society together.

With that said, I don't have a problem with HF hunters, however I do think there are some out there who make a mockery of the word "hunt."

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