Ohhhhh yeeeeaaaa break out the pop corn (in the macho man randy savage voice). I am HF for the win but have respect for low fence. Honestly I really believe it boils down to where u hunt and how u hunt. Let's kick the ballistics u can't spot and stalk a lot of south Texas. Hence long senderos!!!! So if your in a blind and hunting over bait aka a deer feeder ur limited to "x" range and "x" field of view. So besides the holier than thou stance of a low fence what's the difference? Oh wait the real debate is not hf vs lf its no man can lay claim to the states deer, C'mon man. U buy land, minerals, water, why do deer get an exemption. Guy acts a fool an steps foot on your land many on here would not hesitate to throw out shoot the sob he's trespassing and cuz castle doctrine he's on my land and the la d owner is in the right etc etc (I adamantly believe in the castle doctrine by the way). But doesn't that seem backwards a deer is now more valuable then a guys life. I'm not saying if a crazy violent potential serial killer is worth a lick but a life is a life better check the good book on that one. HOWEVER is a low fence 180 more impressive then a HF 180 yes I do believe that, but not all HF hunting is a petting zoo!

Go ahead blast me away in the words of Tom petty I won't back down.

That's a valid point 8Point. What about the guy and his wife who do the same and HF 1000 or 2000 acres? Is there pursuit of the perfect ranch marginalized because they might have gotten a break or two more or have a bigger spread?

I'm agreeing with txtrophy85. BUT I have one question what if you don't have genetics past 150-160 no matter all the h2o and protein u have on the place. Are you opposed to the buy stockers release and get that blood going. Or are you referencing the put and take ops? Like sterilize a whole ranch the set up a breeding program and release yr after yr?

Well I'm not trying to say the person with the smaller ranch is sol but that's part of being an American. Not everything is going to be fair and equal. Hell I'd love a 10k acre ranch but will I own one in my lifetime, Its highly unlikely, but does that mean that the the neighbor who does shouldn't fence his 10k acres if he so chooses so, no. It's his property. Would it set me back yes but will I go out and get a few stockers and manage like I know how you bet ya.

if you want to bring in genetics thats fine. I'm bringing in some bred does in Feb. To our personal place. I personally hate to see a place get totally whiped out and then restocked 100% from pen raised deer, but if a person wants to do that, they can.


I'm referring to put and take operations or places that have pens on their places, kick the deer out at 3 years old just to get shot that same season.

IMO, the places like that are what gives the other HF places a bad rap and provides the ammunition that the anti's will use in these arguments.

the put and take place?

See sig line................... Deer season isnt even over yet and we are allready pulling this chit out, lets atleast wait till axismaster is out of bandcamp and lil chit is up so we can have some real fun with them two in here. HF operations are here to stay 5 acres or 50K acres if its your land do what you want. Im not scared to admit I hunt 99% HF and have hunted places as small as 100 acres, but with a bow they still ahve to get into 30-40 yards so its not a big deal to me fri either. Like Jorge said am I more impressed with a 170 LF than a 170 HF yes but its not nearly as common and I hunt for the enjoyment of it all so the size of the fence wont change my mind.