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 Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Mike Honcho]
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11/28/12 03:44 AM
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A.B.
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And the train keeps a movin on down the line!!! Can't believe it turned into this didn't realize how this topic could get 322 posts in HOURS lmao. keeps it interesting. just differing opinions. not life or death.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: A.B.]
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11/28/12 03:45 AM
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curt o
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Bobo you dang good and well there are very few if any fences up in our part of the world. My family has made a living busting ground up there for well over a century and we have somehow manged without a high fence protecting our fields. Matter of fact, I cant remember ever seeing fences surrounding farm ground in Ks, Ok panhandle or texas panhandle seriously? Never seen an orchard or nursury high fenced to keep deer out? Drive around Fredricksburg a bit.
Patience is the key
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Mike Honcho]
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11/28/12 03:47 AM
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curt o
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And the train keeps a movin on down the line!!! Can't believe it turned into this didn't realize how this topic could get 322 posts in HOURS lmao. full moon tomorrow night 
Patience is the key
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: curt o]
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11/28/12 03:47 AM
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fowlplayr
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true, as is my statement. Simply not a wise investment and disappointment looms. First time land owner mistake, happens every day, tired of leasing, buy my own place, this will be awesome! 200 acres is plenty, oops.
buying land and valueing it by deer and neighbors=Bad decision, period
^^^^^ This is exactly why I object to HF. Since I don't have millions of dollars, or have the luxury of inheriting thousands of acres - it's a bad decision for me to buy a house on a couple hundred acres with intent of hunting it? And since I don't have thousands of acres, the larger ranches will assume that I am killing "their" deer, so they just high-fence it rendering the majority of my property useless. if you value it solely on deer hunting yes, if you value it for other reasons and deer are a plus you can live without, no. If you will be pissed about how your neighbor hunts or fences or raises pigs or paints his house orange do not buy or your setting up for disappointment, That makes no sense whatsoever. How are you supposed to know what your neighbor will do 5 years down the road?
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: fowlplayr]
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11/28/12 03:48 AM
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BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
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Bobo you dang good and well there are very few if any fences up in our part of the world. My family has made a living busting ground up there for well over a century and we have somehow manged without a high fence protecting our fields. Matter of fact, I cant remember ever seeing fences surrounding farm ground in Ks, Ok panhandle or texas panhandle Farm ground I'm referring to is mccullough county. Lot higher deer population So has my family.....But you also have to remember both you and I can remember when their where no deer, antelope, elk..etc up there.... I've said it a million times on here you should be able to do what ever you want with your own land...period end of story it's only a matter of time on some type of fencing in Oklahoma... The current pronghorn permitting system is a serious burden on farmers... And they are not happy about it!!!! But it's going to be interesting to see one stand up to the tumble weeds and wind..lol
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: fowlplayr]
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11/28/12 03:50 AM
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BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
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true, as is my statement. Simply not a wise investment and disappointment looms. First time land owner mistake, happens every day, tired of leasing, buy my own place, this will be awesome! 200 acres is plenty, oops.
buying land and valueing it by deer and neighbors=Bad decision, period
^^^^^ This is exactly why I object to HF. Since I don't have millions of dollars, or have the luxury of inheriting thousands of acres - it's a bad decision for me to buy a house on a couple hundred acres with intent of hunting it? And since I don't have thousands of acres, the larger ranches will assume that I am killing "their" deer, so they just high-fence it rendering the majority of my property useless. But you should be able to put a privacy fence or build a pool or concrete drive way or build a tank..or turn your ground into farmland
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: fowlplayr]
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11/28/12 03:51 AM
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vanguard
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true, as is my statement. Simply not a wise investment and disappointment looms. First time land owner mistake, happens every day, tired of leasing, buy my own place, this will be awesome! 200 acres is plenty, oops.
buying land and valueing it by deer and neighbors=Bad decision, period
^^^^^ This is exactly why I object to HF. Since I don't have millions of dollars, or have the luxury of inheriting thousands of acres - it's a bad decision for me to buy a house on a couple hundred acres with intent of hunting it? And since I don't have thousands of acres, the larger ranches will assume that I am killing "their" deer, so they just high-fence it rendering the majority of my property useless. if you value it solely on deer hunting yes, if you value it for other reasons and deer are a plus you can live without, no. If you will be pissed about how your neighbor hunts or fences or raises pigs or paints his house orange do not buy or your setting up for disappointment, That makes no sense whatsoever. How are you supposed to know what your neighbor will do 5 years down the road? i guess if you dont have 1.2 mil to buy 1k acres of land to hunt dont buy any land to hunt. of course if high fences were ilegal it would stop this gamble. i do believe high fences should be illegal
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: vanguard]
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11/28/12 03:55 AM
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Man, I leave for a few hours and y'all go off and get all serious. Which side is winning...I will help the losing team. And bobo...if deer don't travel, why does your buddy have a pic of my 10 pointer. No reason he should have ever left my 10k acres 
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: vanguard]
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11/28/12 03:55 AM
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If HF should be illegal than so should feeders and guns, thats a rediculous idea, the HF ranches dump more $$$$$ in the hunting industry yearly than anything else combined.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: txshntr]
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11/28/12 03:56 AM
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BBD84
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Man, I leave for a few hours and y'all go off and get all serious. Which side is winning...I will help the losing team. And bobo...if deer don't travel, why does your buddy have a pic of my 10 pointer. No reason he should have ever left my 10k acres Toss up right now but looks like HF is a winner like usual so hop on over to the LF jealous side LOL
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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11/28/12 03:57 AM
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fowlplayr
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true, as is my statement. Simply not a wise investment and disappointment looms. First time land owner mistake, happens every day, tired of leasing, buy my own place, this will be awesome! 200 acres is plenty, oops.
buying land and valueing it by deer and neighbors=Bad decision, period
^^^^^ This is exactly why I object to HF. Since I don't have millions of dollars, or have the luxury of inheriting thousands of acres - it's a bad decision for me to buy a house on a couple hundred acres with intent of hunting it? And since I don't have thousands of acres, the larger ranches will assume that I am killing "their" deer, so they just high-fence it rendering the majority of my property useless. But you should be able to put a privacy fence or build a pool or concrete drive way or build a tank..or turn your ground into farmland Nope. If I couldn't use it for what I wanted to, I would move and lease it out for a landfill, mobil home park, or sell it cheap for commercial manufacturing. I would try my hardest to drop his value some. The Man would love that.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BBD84]
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11/28/12 03:57 AM
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txshntr
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If HF should be illegal than so should feeders and guns, thats a rediculous idea, the HF ranches dump more $$$$$ in the hunting industry yearly than anything else combined.  they may put more money into their own place, but that is only because they get a higher return on the investment...since MOST the deer can't leave
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: txshntr]
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11/28/12 03:58 AM
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rifleman
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Man, I leave for a few hours and y'all go off and get all serious. Which side is winning...I will help the losing team. And bobo...if deer don't travel, why does your buddy have a pic of my 10 pointer. No reason he should have ever left my 10k acres if you stick with the LF side you may can go shoot LF deer like this.... 
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: vanguard]
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11/28/12 03:58 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Ya spend 1.2 million when you can lease it for 100th of that....he'll your interest alone is would pay for the lease.
I personally will never buy land soley for hunting unless I was a multi millionaire it doesn't make sense to me it has zero return on investment until you sale it... Infact I'm land swapping all my hunting land for crop land
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: txshntr]
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11/28/12 03:59 AM
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rifleman
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If HF should be illegal than so should feeders and guns, thats a rediculous idea, the HF ranches dump more $$$$$ in the hunting industry yearly than anything else combined. they may put more money into their own place, but that is only because they get a higher return on the investment...since MOST the deer can't leave the correct wording is "sinking" more money.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BBD84]
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11/28/12 03:59 AM
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txshntr
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Man, I leave for a few hours and y'all go off and get all serious. Which side is winning...I will help the losing team. And bobo...if deer don't travel, why does your buddy have a pic of my 10 pointer. No reason he should have ever left my 10k acres Toss up right now but looks like HF is a winner like usual so hop on over to the LF jealous side LOL I am on it. Don't mind being the underdog for a little while  One of these days, I am going to argue the HF side. Just more fun to get the HF guys (and Bobo) riled up
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: txshntr]
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11/28/12 04:00 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Man, I leave for a few hours and y'all go off and get all serious. Which side is winning...I will help the losing team. And bobo...if deer don't travel, why does your buddy have a pic of my 10 pointer. No reason he should have ever left my 10k acres Cause apparently he doesn't live in the center of your ranch more like out skirts 
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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11/28/12 04:00 AM
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txshntr
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Ya spend 1.2 million when you can lease it for 100th of that....he'll your interest alone is would pay for the lease.
I personally will never buy land soley for hunting unless I was a multi millionaire it doesn't make sense to me it has zero return on investment until you sale it... Infact I'm land swapping all my hunting land for crop land Hunting crops is no different than hunting a feeder
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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11/28/12 04:00 AM
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wing_runner
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I know I personally view a low fence trophy entirely different than a paid for high fence trophy.
What about the same size animal that was paid for on lf? Yes, I pay to hunt low fence. I put a lot of sweat equity into the place I hunt versus just showing up. Off season work weekends, cleaning up the pasture for the rancher, fixing gates, etc...versus just showing up with a rifle on a place you've never stepped foot on.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: txshntr]
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11/28/12 04:00 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Man, I leave for a few hours and y'all go off and get all serious. Which side is winning...I will help the losing team. And bobo...if deer don't travel, why does your buddy have a pic of my 10 pointer. No reason he should have ever left my 10k acres Toss up right now but looks like HF is a winner like usual so hop on over to the LF jealous side LOL I am on it. Don't mind being the underdog for a little while One of these days, I am going to argue the HF side. Just more fun to get the HF guys (and Bobo) riled up I only get riled up when some one mocks someone's deer big or smalllll
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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11/28/12 04:01 AM
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txshntr
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Man, I leave for a few hours and y'all go off and get all serious. Which side is winning...I will help the losing team. And bobo...if deer don't travel, why does your buddy have a pic of my 10 pointer. No reason he should have ever left my 10k acres Cause apparently he doesn't live in the center of your ranch more like out skirts I have pictures of him in the center. The deer in that area travel more than most. Fact
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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11/28/12 04:01 AM
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rifleman
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I personally will never buy land soley for hunting unless I was a multi millionaire it doesn't make sense to me it has zero return on investment until you sale it... Infact I'm land swapping all my hunting land for crop land
I'm in the process of swapping a useless (to me) tract for a useless flood plain tract.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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11/28/12 04:01 AM
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txshntr
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Man, I leave for a few hours and y'all go off and get all serious. Which side is winning...I will help the losing team. And bobo...if deer don't travel, why does your buddy have a pic of my 10 pointer. No reason he should have ever left my 10k acres Toss up right now but looks like HF is a winner like usual so hop on over to the LF jealous side LOL I am on it. Don't mind being the underdog for a little while One of these days, I am going to argue the HF side. Just more fun to get the HF guys (and Bobo) riled up I only get riled up when some one mocks someone's deer big or smalllll Your deer is small and you paid too much for the big one
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: txshntr]
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11/28/12 04:01 AM
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i would be ok if high fences had to stay 50 yds away from all boundaries, that would leave easments of land for deer to travel
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: rifleman]
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11/28/12 04:02 AM
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txshntr
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I personally will never buy land soley for hunting unless I was a multi millionaire it doesn't make sense to me it has zero return on investment until you sale it... Infact I'm land swapping all my hunting land for crop land
I'm in the process of swapping a useless (to me) tract for a useless flood plain tract. I like useless tracs...they are cheaper
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