changing horses there Sir. You did not specify hunting land, location nor minerals. If a land purchase is made solely for hunting in all likelyhood a terrible investment was made and disappointment looms.

AMEN BBD84

Brother you hunt penned up animals and call ME shallow? That's rich.

this is texas, lots and i mean lots of people buy small tracts solely for hunting, high fences go up around you and your land is now worthless.

one of these showed up in Los Cazadores.....

What about the same size animal that was paid for on lf?

i would venture a bet that better than 99% of the forum members pay to hunt, either a lease, land payments. Feed, public access permits, labor trades. et. al.
Very, very few hunt free.

I hunt both for the record and when hunting over a feeder inside a HF or a LF its a trophy to me. If ilove It don't need to enter it in a contest or have some scorer tell me it's a trophy. I dont need B&C or P&Y tellin me oh he doesn't count for anything because he was in a fence 4ft higher then a dude down the rd.

if you bought the land for other reasons you kind of are as a by-product. You'd have bought it whether you were going to hunt it or not.

We own a HF place and have hunting on the LF side of our property. I still pay and trade for hunts all over texas cause I love the sport HF LF or NF I love to hunt and my kids will hopefully feel the same as I do.

And hunting certain parts of south tx HF is no different then low fence they pose the same issues big guy.

It's always viewed differently if the deer aren't trapped. Why do you think one of the first statements in most OPs on the picture thread points out the deer was LF? And, if it isn't stated, one of the first questions is "HF or LF?" Not "did you pay to hunt it?"

if one was to buy a small pasture and value it only for it's deer movement one would not be very brite. The most valuable land has no deer movement what so ever. [/quote]

hunting lands only value is hunting if you dont have mineral rights what value would thorny brush infested land be worth in the middle of BFE [/quote]

changing horses there Sir. You did not specify hunting land, location nor minerals. If a land purchase is made solely for hunting in all likelyhood a terrible investment was made and disappointment looms. [/quote]

this is texas, lots and i mean lots of people buy small tracts solely for hunting, high fences go up around you and your land is now worthless. [/quote]

true, as is my statement. Simply not a wise investment and disappointment looms. First time land owner mistake, happens every day, tired of leasing, buy my own place, this will be awesome! 200 acres is plenty, oops.
buying land and valueing it by deer and neighbors=Bad decision, period

Very few hunt for free, and that is true, but when it comes to trophy deer, you can pretty much gauge the quality of the deer you can shoot by the content of the hunters wallet.

Wrong it's i bet that cost some $$$$$$$ or wish I had that kind of money to spend on a deer

i see your point, but , if you were not making payments for other reasons you would not be hunting there, thus, you are paying to hunt.

Happens every year, open cat. or should be but no big deal to me. Hell if my wife would let me drop 20K on one hunt instead of yearly id shoot it but my big deer (199") was a gift from ex-gf dad dont care what it is big deer are my passion.

I run and manage a HF place just over 300 acres. I spend countless hours and a lot of blood sweat and tears into the place. I guess since I
Also hunt on the ranch it makes me a lazy hunter since the deer can't run away? I hunt on low fence places where I could have killed booner bucks with a sharp stick they were so tame. I also hunt in the mid
West where you earn what you kill. Each property is
Different and regardless of what kind of fence it has isn't or
Shouldn't be an issue. From what I have seen those who oppose high
Fences let jealousy run amuck. I for one coul care less about it all. Fences are an insurance and safe guards from people who have the mentality if I don't shoot it someone else will.

What about the guys that HF for exotics?

Do any LF guys have an issue when axis or other exotics show up on their place?

Nogalus- not fair chase? Sitting over a feeder that the deer have learned to come to is not exactly fair chase. I'm not knocking it, but it's not exactly difficult hunting.

sadly this is the truth, concur

Momma Nature always seems to have a way to keep things in check. Drought, disease, wildfire, feed costs, etc. All of these things have a bigger impact on the inside of a fence.

Ahh, the "jealousy" card. Always makes an appearance.

No the farmers I know that HF their ag fields did it to keep the majority out..... They still have to push deer out of it every week. Instead of 50deer hammering their crops they have three or four.....

Again like I said before.... Any improvement you do to your land is a value you place on it's effectiveness vs cost

With that logic I'm getting paid to hunt because timber was worth double the buying price

SomeOne had too. 12 pages so I figured it was time. Needed to throw some more diesel on the fire!!