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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BBD84]
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11/28/12 02:34 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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BOBO in trying to make a point you have made mine. Hunting deer I may "never be able to hunt anyway" is why it's called hunting, not shooting fish in a barrel. The fact that there are no guarantees the deer is there or not is kinda the heart of real hunting.... Ya but you and I look at hunting whitetail differently.... its not hard to kill a deer... not hard to kill a buck, not hard to kill a good buck. Ya think whitetails have such a huge range when in fact most dont venture past two -three sections their entire life with the exception of their early dispersal years. Again they dont migrate The deer Michale Waddel just shot not long ago had the tracking collar on it, he travled 9 miles in the last 2 days so thats not all true but I agree that deer stay in a decent sized radius for there life span. BTT HF ROCKS LOL Traveled 9 miles straight line or nine miles back and forth...................... not hard to travel nine miles on 1400 acres
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: A.B.]
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11/28/12 02:35 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Nogalus prairie do u not hunt whitetail out of a blind? U stalk all game? Cuz not every HF is a canned hunt or shooting fish in the barrel. To me, a deer that can't get out of an enclosure is canned. To B&C and P&Y too. HF sucks. That my opinion and it won't change. You would say that if you owned 2500 in east tx:)
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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11/28/12 02:36 AM
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BOBO in trying to make a point you have made mine. Hunting deer I may "never be able to hunt anyway" is why it's called hunting, not shooting fish in a barrel. The fact that there are no guarantees the deer is there or not is kinda the heart of real hunting.... Ya but you and I look at hunting whitetail differently.... its not hard to kill a deer... not hard to kill a buck, not hard to kill a good buck. Ya think whitetails have such a huge range when in fact most dont venture past two -three sections their entire life with the exception of their early dispersal years. Again they dont migrate Dang y'all argue in circles. If there is no real need to trap the deer, why spend the $$$ to build the damn thing? Deer don't migrate like caribou. But they do travel. They either 1)serve their intended purpose of trapping deer or 2) there are a bunch of stupid people building them. IMO HF guys won't pick a horse and ride it because they are both glue-factory nags.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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11/28/12 02:36 AM
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A.B.
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I don't own that much here, but do in panhandle. HF sucks
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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11/28/12 02:36 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Nogalus prairie do u not hunt whitetail out of a blind? U stalk all game? Cuz not every HF is a canned hunt or shooting fish in the barrel. To me, a deer that can't get out of an enclosure is canned. To B&C and P&Y too. Oh then all hf are not canned.......
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: A.B.]
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11/28/12 02:37 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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I don't own that much here, but do in panhandle. HF sucks That much in east texas probably equals 20k in the panhandle
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:38 AM
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A.B.
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I think NP has the argument nailed down. High fences are built to trap deer in a certain area. If not please explain to my feeble brain what their intended purpose is.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:38 AM
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BBD84
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BOBO in trying to make a point you have made mine. Hunting deer I may "never be able to hunt anyway" is why it's called hunting, not shooting fish in a barrel. The fact that there are no guarantees the deer is there or not is kinda the heart of real hunting.... Ya but you and I look at hunting whitetail differently.... its not hard to kill a deer... not hard to kill a buck, not hard to kill a good buck. Ya think whitetails have such a huge range when in fact most dont venture past two -three sections their entire life with the exception of their early dispersal years. Again they dont migrate The deer Michale Waddel just shot not long ago had the tracking collar on it, he travled 9 miles in the last 2 days so thats not all true but I agree that deer stay in a decent sized radius for there life span. BTT HF ROCKS LOL Traveled 9 miles straight line or nine miles back and forth...................... not hard to travel nine miles on 1400 acres One way as the bird flys from food to bedding area and was during rut. Amazed me but thought it was really cool.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:40 AM
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BBD84
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I think NP has the argument nailed down. High fences are built to trap deer in a certain area. If not please explain to my feeble brain what their intended purpose is. To keep crap genetic out and grow a better deer heard, alot of the HF places I hunt sell hunts and guide on including my own have had all native deer either pushed out or shot out to prevent the unwanted gentics out. Also alot of HF places are exotics and thats what ours is we have not one WT on the place period so this topic has nothing to do with us technically speaking.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:40 AM
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curt o
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high fences hurt the guys with little pastures too, it will completely stop deer movement through his pasture and render his land useless and worthless if one was to buy a small pasture and value it only for it's deer movement one would not be very brite. The most valuable land has no deer movement what so ever.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BBD84]
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11/28/12 02:41 AM
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[quote=aggiebrahma] To keep crap genetic out and grow a better deer heard, sounds like cattle
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:41 AM
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Our deer migrate to acorns Mine two...we just happen to have replaced elm trees with white oaks...and continue to thin the elms out would it make a difference if they had them to their heart's desire a few miles away? Even the pets leave and drop down to the river bottom when they start dropping.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BBD84]
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11/28/12 02:41 AM
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A.B.
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I think NP has the argument nailed down. High fences are built to trap deer in a certain area. If not please explain to my feeble brain what their intended purpose is. To keep crap genetic out and grow a better deer heard, alot of the HF places I hunt sell hunts and guide on including my own have had all native deer either pushed out or shot out to prevent the unwanted gentics out. Also alot of HF places are exotics and thats what ours is we have not one WT on the place period so this topic has nothing to do with us technically speaking. So, you are trapping the deer that carry your desired genes in a confined area?
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:42 AM
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Nogalus prairie do u not hunt whitetail out of a blind? U stalk all game? Cuz not every HF is a canned hunt or shooting fish in the barrel. To me, a deer that can't get out of an enclosure is canned. To B&C and P&Y too. Oh then all hf are not canned....... Well, I see you switched to the "HF doesn't work so the people who build them are stupid" nag now....
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:43 AM
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I think NP has the argument nailed down. High fences are built to trap deer in a certain area. If not please explain to my feeble brain what their intended purpose is. Hmmm, we've built HF's to keep deer out of our fields. See not all are to keep deer in, in fact I believe HF's were orginally built to keep deer out of the crops. Hows that an answer for you?
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:43 AM
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curt o
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I think NP has the argument nailed down. High fences are built to trap deer in a certain area. If not please explain to my feeble brain what their intended purpose is. go back to page 1.
Patience is the key
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:45 AM
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high fences hurt the guys with little pastures too, it will completely stop deer movement through his pasture and render his land useless and worthless if one was to buy a small pasture and value it only for it's deer movement one would not be very brite. The most valuable land has no deer movement what so ever. hunting lands only value is hunting if you dont have mineral rights what value would thorny brush infested land be worth in the middle of BFE
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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11/28/12 02:45 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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BOBO in trying to make a point you have made mine. Hunting deer I may "never be able to hunt anyway" is why it's called hunting, not shooting fish in a barrel. The fact that there are no guarantees the deer is there or not is kinda the heart of real hunting.... Ya but you and I look at hunting whitetail differently.... its not hard to kill a deer... not hard to kill a buck, not hard to kill a good buck. Ya think whitetails have such a huge range when in fact most dont venture past two -three sections their entire life with the exception of their early dispersal years. Again they dont migrate Dang y'all argue in circles. If there is no real need to trap the deer, why spend the $$$ to build the damn thing? Deer don't migrate like caribou. But they do travel. They either 1)serve their intended purpose of trapping deer or 2) there are a bunch of stupid people building them. IMO HF guys won't pick a horse and ride it because they are both glue-factory nags. They are trying to slow down dispersal into their ranch...thus keeping more deer from coming in and making it harder to stay under CC. More or less... Or its a smaller place and they dont have the acreage the same large acreage do so they want to try to do the same as the large acreage ranches do with less land again slow down dispersal in or out...keeping their genetic s and yours out.
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:45 AM
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I think NP has the argument nailed down. High fences are built to trap deer in a certain area. If not please explain to my feeble brain what their intended purpose is. To keep crap genetic out and grow a better deer heard, alot of the HF places I hunt sell hunts and guide on including my own have had all native deer either pushed out or shot out to prevent the unwanted gentics out. Also alot of HF places are exotics and thats what ours is we have not one WT on the place period so this topic has nothing to do with us technically speaking. So, you are trapping the deer that carry your desired genes in a confined area? No buying what we want and then keeping a investment together instead of letting some joe shoot a deer you have payed 5K for and fed for the last 3 years for nothing. Its alot like insurance like previously posted IMO. Takes $$$ to grow big deer period and if its my $ I dont want you shooting it for nothing.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:46 AM
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One more, I built a HF to keep the deer out of my neighbors 12 acres. When someone kills 7 deer on 12 acres then I have to protect MY deer, the state has never done a thing to help them live. In fact if they want them they need to reimburse me $25,000 for the well, waterlines, troughs and storage tanks.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:46 AM
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I find it funny that some complain that the HF has blocked the movement of deer that they could shoot. Now that a fence is put up, arent you now hunting deer that the HF guy can't shoot because of the fence?
If you shoot a young deer because a neighbor will shoot it, you are that neighbor.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:47 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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high fences hurt the guys with little pastures too, it will completely stop deer movement through his pasture and render his land useless and worthless if one was to buy a small pasture and value it only for it's deer movement one would not be very brite. The most valuable land has no deer movement what so ever. hunting lands only value is hunting if you dont have mineral rights what value would thorny brush infested land be worth in the middle of BFE Concur with curt.... no ranch in texas can make its land payments off hunting. Alone at todays land prices
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:48 AM
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I find it funny that some complain that the HF has blocked the movement of deer that they could shoot. Now that a fence is put up, arent you now hunting deer that the HF guy can't shoot because of the fence? LOL i like this one, hell if thats the case can I come next door and hunt since its not fair that the HF is there or better yet shoot over or through the fence since those are our deer LOL
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:49 AM
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But u Nogalus u didn't say whether u hunted in a blind and over a feeder just like HF guys? So now a buck is only worth a flip if he makes it in a record book. WOW if that isn't contradictory. pretty shallow like the evil HF hunters that shoot deer point blank with a rim fire in the face when they rattle the coffee can.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
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11/28/12 02:50 AM
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I know I personally view a low fence trophy entirely different than a paid for high fence trophy.
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