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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: DiverTexas]
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11/27/12 10:04 PM
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rifleman
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I expect 4 pages by morning. underacheiver
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: DiverTexas]
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11/27/12 10:04 PM
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txshntr
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I expect 4 pages by morning. If I play this right, we can hit by 8:00 tonight
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Mike Honcho]
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11/27/12 10:05 PM
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Mike Honcho
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Sorry didn't mean to start the bonfire just don't get why if you hunt out of a blind with "x" amount of field of view and possible weapon range high fence low fence who gives a hoot.
“Two things that define an individual what you do when you have everything, and what you do when you have nothing."
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Mike Honcho]
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11/27/12 10:05 PM
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Mike Honcho
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“Two things that define an individual what you do when you have everything, and what you do when you have nothing."
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: DiverTexas]
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11/27/12 10:05 PM
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I expect 4 pages by morning. Should have 4 pages by 9pm tonight...
James
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger" Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Nightbird]
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11/27/12 10:06 PM
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Nightbird
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I expect 4 pages by morning. Should have 4 pages by 9pm tonight... Ok.. Txhntr I will give you 8pm
James
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger" Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Nightbird]
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11/27/12 10:09 PM
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newulmboy
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I expect 4 pages by morning. Should have 4 pages by 9pm tonight... Ok.. Txhntr I will give you 8pm Keep this up and it'll be there before I get off work at 5.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Mike Honcho]
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11/27/12 10:10 PM
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txshntr
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Sorry didn't mean to start the bonfire just don't get why if you hunt out of a blind with "x" amount of field of view and possible weapon range high fence low fence who gives a hoot. Because LF deer can leave the feeder and go to my wheat field or feeder. HF deer are trapped and I have no chance of being a better steward of my land to make it more appealing to the deer. No matter how great my property is, your deer can't be drawn over.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: newulmboy]
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11/27/12 10:12 PM
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txshntr
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I expect 4 pages by morning. Should have 4 pages by 9pm tonight... Ok.. Txhntr I will give you 8pm Keep this up and it'll be there before I get off work at 5. I will be heading to my daughters gymnastics, so I will be relying on y'all to continue the argument. Where is trophy85 and Nogulas...they will get it there
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Mike Honcho]
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11/27/12 10:13 PM
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BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
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More power to the land owner to do what he wants with his own sweat and blood made money.
hunting is just like sub surface and surface rights IMO. You want your piece of the pie buy some land
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: txshntr]
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11/27/12 10:13 PM
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Mike Honcho
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But how many people keep oryx or exotics on a low fence not many I imagine. Same principal ppl put up a HF many times to not throw away the money they invest in their land in vain. As for the govt position on animals the they can go screw themselves. I totally jacked up a truck on a public rd From a whitetail u think the state cared about "their" property damaging my truck?
“Two things that define an individual what you do when you have everything, and what you do when you have nothing."
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Hunt n Fish]
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11/27/12 10:14 PM
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Greytshot
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OK - How 'bout this? Before one puts up a high fence, they will have to ensure that all "state/public owned" deer are removed from the property and start restocking from scratch. That way all those opposed, who also pay for hunting licenses to support TPWD, have a chance to kill a nice "state/publicly owned" buck. An alternative to removing all deer might be that each HF operator would be required to release a certain number of quality (not necessarily trophy) bucks so that "state/publicly owned" deer are reasonably accessible to all license holders. In this case the HF operator doesn't start from scratch and still has control over genetics on his own property. I kinda like this idea!
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: txshntr]
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11/27/12 10:14 PM
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Nightbird
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Sorry didn't mean to start the bonfire just don't get why if you hunt out of a blind with "x" amount of field of view and possible weapon range high fence low fence who gives a hoot. Because LF deer can leave the feeder and go to my wheat field or feeder. HF deer are trapped and I have no chance of being a better steward of my land to make it more appealing to the deer. No matter how great my property is, your deer can't be drawn over. So are you saying that they are selfish Txhntr?
James
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger" Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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11/27/12 10:15 PM
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txshntr
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More power to the land owner to do what he wants with his own sweat and blood made money.
hunting is just like sub surface and surface rights IMO. You want your piece of the pie buy some land I buy the land, create the perfect habitat and the neighbor screws me by trapping the deer and not letting them move freely
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Nightbird]
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11/27/12 10:15 PM
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txshntr
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Sorry didn't mean to start the bonfire just don't get why if you hunt out of a blind with "x" amount of field of view and possible weapon range high fence low fence who gives a hoot. Because LF deer can leave the feeder and go to my wheat field or feeder. HF deer are trapped and I have no chance of being a better steward of my land to make it more appealing to the deer. No matter how great my property is, your deer can't be drawn over. So are you saying that they are selfish Txhntr? Yes....but in the same sense, it sounds like my side is selfish too
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: txshntr]
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11/27/12 10:16 PM
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Nightbird
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Sorry didn't mean to start the bonfire just don't get why if you hunt out of a blind with "x" amount of field of view and possible weapon range high fence low fence who gives a hoot. Because LF deer can leave the feeder and go to my wheat field or feeder. HF deer are trapped and I have no chance of being a better steward of my land to make it more appealing to the deer. No matter how great my property is, your deer can't be drawn over. So are you saying that they are selfish Txhntr? Yes....but in the same sense, it sounds like my side is selfish too So we in general as hunters are selfish whether it be HF or LF! I agree Txhntr!
James
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger" Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: slow944]
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11/27/12 10:16 PM
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That's the problem with HF. The owner of the land believe the deer belong to them, when in fact they belong to the state of Texas if that's where your property is. I don't care if you have a High fence on your property, but if you want to charge a small fortune for someone to shoot a deer just make sure that you run all the governments deer off the place and buy some deer for yourself and start raising them, that way they will belong to you and no will will have to say anything too you about it. This is my one single problem with HF. I believe a landowner should be able to do whatever he / she wants with their land. But trapping the states Deer is not one of them. When I say "states Deer" I'm refering to the people of Texas that buy their license every year that lines the pockets of TP&W and the state. I believe that ALL Deer should be removed from the property before the fence is closed. They buy their exotics don't they? Why can't they buy their Deer? I believe this is just as wrong as fencing in someones cattle and calling them yours. Other than that, if it's legal, it's up to whatever the hunter wants. It's still hunting. But remember one thing, some groups don't recognize Deer killed behind a HF. There is a reason for that.
"A hunt based only on trophies taken, falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be." -Fred Bear
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Hunt n Fish]
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11/27/12 10:17 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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OK - How 'bout this? Before one puts up a high fence, they will have to ensure that all "state/public owned" deer are removed from the property and start restocking from scratch. That way all those opposed, who also pay for hunting licenses to support TPWD, have a chance to kill a nice "state/publicly owned" buck. An alternative to removing all deer might be that each HF operator would be required to release a certain number of quality (not necessarily trophy) bucks so that "state/publicly owned" deer are reasonably accessible to all license holders. In this case the HF operator doesn't start from scratch and still has control over genetics on his own property. Wont work because the hunters that dont hunt next to the hf place will sue the the ones that aren because they didn't get one of the previous ly hf deer
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Big Tony]
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11/27/12 10:18 PM
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txshntr
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We are all selfish and want more. Some want the deer to run free and others want to trap them all and keep them for themselves...
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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11/27/12 10:19 PM
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txshntr
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OK - How 'bout this? Before one puts up a high fence, they will have to ensure that all "state/public owned" deer are removed from the property and start restocking from scratch. That way all those opposed, who also pay for hunting licenses to support TPWD, have a chance to kill a nice "state/publicly owned" buck. An alternative to removing all deer might be that each HF operator would be required to release a certain number of quality (not necessarily trophy) bucks so that "state/publicly owned" deer are reasonably accessible to all license holders. In this case the HF operator doesn't start from scratch and still has control over genetics on his own property. Wont work because the hunters that dont hunt next to the hf place will sue the the ones that aren't because the y didn't get one of the previous ly hf deer Won't hold up in court
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: slow944]
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11/27/12 10:22 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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That's the problem with HF. The owner of the land believe the deer belong to them, when in fact they belong to the state of Texas if that's where your property is. I don't care if you have a High fence on your property, but if you want to charge a small fortune for someone to shoot a deer just make sure that you run all the governments deer off the place and buy some deer for yourself and start raising them, that way they will belong to you and no will will have to say anything too you about it. Hate to see what you think about large land owners like king, 6666, waggnor, xIT, hat, matador, la escalera, etc
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: txshntr]
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11/27/12 10:22 PM
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Nightbird
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Come on guys let keep it going we are only on page 2 still
James
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger" Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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11/27/12 10:23 PM
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grasshopperglock
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Whats funny is that I haven't paid for a deer hunt in my life. Ive hunted 10K acres before. Iam hunting in Milano this year. last year was bell county.
personally, I find sitting in a blind waiting for a sex crazed, half breed goat...to be rather boring. 2-3 hours sitting in the cold just to take one shot.
For those spending thousands of thousands of dollars on fence. Good luck with that. Wouldn't be just as good to have a well maintained food plot. Something that makes the deer stick around vs making them stick around with miles of fence you have to maintain?
And to really stir the pot. A good hunter doesn't need a HF to insure a trophy kill. IMHO...thats cheating. Just a bigger barrel for the fish.
Last edited by grasshopperglock; 11/27/12 10:25 PM.
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: Nightbird]
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11/27/12 10:27 PM
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Mike Honcho
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Lol. Accurately put txhntr even though we have different opinions I agree that ppl want to keep the best deer possible on their land. Guy shoots a 150 this year at some point the itch for a 160 is gonna kick in amd so on. And yes that is true the deer are property of the people of texas but the state doesn't take that stance.
“Two things that define an individual what you do when you have everything, and what you do when you have nothing."
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Re: For all those opposed to HF Hunting consider this
[Re: grasshopperglock]
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11/27/12 10:31 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Personally I would allow the state to highfence me and take every tresspassing animal on my property in exchange... that way no one can ever say crap again and my ag loss that I get zero comp for now would probably allow me to retire ten years earlier
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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