I'm getting in some good stories and pictures of animals taken with the A-max bullets. Here is a recent one with the 155 A-max on a good size pig. You might recognize him. It is showing the exit wound. I have been hunting with the 155 A-max for several years with great success. Post some pics if you have any also!

I shot a pig this weekend with a 162 it had a nasty entrance and exit, I'm pretty sure the entrance was so nasty thanks to the 30yrd shot. Sorry no pics though.

6.5 Grendel, 70 yard shots on each with the 123gr A-Max. small entrance hole on entrance no exit except on the tree

Pig that weighed about 70-80 lbs shot at 70 yards broadside in the shoulder as it was running through after shooting another one about the same size. Both shot in the shoulder and went about 10 to 15 yards.


Have no idea the internal damage, shot in the round bullseye as the 49lb yote was facing away, no entrance wound found and no exit however it died pretty quickly. You could say it died from a pain in the arse.


Mesquite tree that had the misfortune of being in the way of the same A-Max load at 314 yards when I shot over a yotes back. That is about 3.5 inches of mesquite tree penetrated.

I don't have any pics but the two doe I shot this year with the 208amax would tell you they really hurt and do a lot of damage...

I shot one doe w/an Amax from my 308 at about 60 yds thru the shoulders 3 yrs ago..put a hole that you could put a grapefruit in..and did a lot of add'l damage..and she ran about 50 yds into
the whitebrush and I had to trail her..and I went back to my Barnes Bullets...The Amax is a good target round and if I'd shot
her in the neck or head it wouldn't have mattered, but I didn't have much of a shot or time and figured she'd be DRT which she wasn't...I shoot paper or varmits with them because of costs..but
hunt w/Copper..DD

I've used the 110 VMax out of a 300BO on small pigs in the 60 to 80 pound range and had passthrus.
I thought it was because of the lack of speed in the 300BO to violently expand like a varmint round should.

I have had mixed results with 178 AMax. Good results with a buck and a doe but not so much with another buck. Not much of a blood trail. I have though about changing but I shoot more steel than animals.

I forgot about my doe I shot at 280 yards with a 208 A-max from my 300 Win Mag TRG 42 (see video below). I don't think this doe liked it very much. I have had great results with the A-max bullets used for hunting.

I also had a customer that shot a black bear ar 220 yards with a 208 A-max facing him. The bullet went in the front of the chest, clean through the bear, and they recovered the bullet under the skin in the very back of the bears rear ham. It was about 4 feet of penetration!

178 A-max .308 Win. 2720 fps MV

Coyote #1 stopped and sat down facing me at 180 yards, I put one just under his chin. It looked like someone flipped off the switch.



Just after that shot coyote # 2 came running back to see what that noise was and why his buddy was laying down. He stopped at 150 yards, mostly his rear end was facing me, but I managed to thread one behind his left front and it exited his right neck. Flipped the switch off again.



I drug coyote # 2 to coyote #1 and made lunch for the buzzards.



The next morning this guy walked out at 105 yards. He never stopped walking, but I managed to put one in his neck. Bang flop.





Hopefully I'll have some more pics after this weekend with a 140 gr. out of a .260 at 2800 fps. More coyotes, hogs, deer, I'm an equal opportunity hunter.

What is the technical difference in the a-max and the v-max? I have been shooting the vmax, and I am still on the fence. It is in my 6.8, only bc of availability. I could Google it but would rather hear first hand.

Vmax is varmint built for rapid expansion and the Amax is a target bullet built for the utmost in accuracy.

The V-max bullets have a thinner jacket to expand more. Most target type bullets have a thicker jacket to hold together better for the faster twist rates.

I've shot many animals with the A-max bullets, and they work very well and provide similar performance like an SST.

So does anyone have preference in the Amax the 155gr or the 168gr for game.
I have some 168gr loaded for my .308 but may switch to the 155gr.

Here is my wife with her 308 with 168 Amaxes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDlv2ODrVk8

How well would the 155 perform in a 308 when you hit a rib or shoulder??
Or on pig shoulders once the group scatters and I can't hit em in the ear/neck??

I'm curious as to why y'all don't want to try the 178's ?

My 308 AR likes them and I have a bunch on hand. Just haven't shot a deer or hog with them yet....

I like the higher velocity of the 155's and 168's over the heavier bullets. At .308 speeds I would think the heavies would not expand as well at the longer ranges but that is just an educated guess. I am shooting them out of a 20 inch barrel which is another speed factor.

If you get a 155 gr. bullet to leave the muzzle at 2800 fps it will not reatain as much percentage of it's muzzle velocity at 500 yds + as a 178 leaving the muzzle at 2700 fps. I'm not knocking you for using the 155, I was just curious as to why you do.

Run the numbers in jbmballistics. Their trajectory is always very, very close or right on the money. I would think the energy deliver factor would be correct as well.

im no pro on the subject but if indeed the amax has a thicker jacket it would be the first, all target bullets have thin jackets, its because of the precision needed to make target bullets, if it was a thick jacket it would be a good hunting bullet, but yet they say not for hunting.


A-MAX®

Designed by match shooters for match shooters. With an ultra-low drag tip, our A-Max match bullets feature an aerodynamic secant ogive that delivers flat trajectories with excellent uniformity and concentricity. Find out more...

Rapid, explosive expansion with limited penetration.
Recommended muzzle velocity range: 2000+ fps.
These bullets are not recommended for hunting.


its funny how some people kill with an a max but others need a accubond. sometimes i think nobody knows what the hell they are talking about except me, ive always said pick a boolit and put it where it counts, it dont make a darn difference which one.

"a thicker jacket it would be the first, all target bullets have thin jackets"

Berger had to thicken the jackets on their VLD line after finding that some bullets were not making it to the target in fast twist barrels needed to stabilize them.

the vld is a pixie dust bullet intended to disintegrate

but isnt it true that match bullets have thin jackets ?

Not sure about that. Berger might say otherwise



http://www.bergerbullets.com/information/line-and-designs/

he Hunting bullet line is proving to be the most lethal big game hunting bullets available. All of our Hunting bullets are made in the VLD design. The VLD design incorporates a sharp nose that allows the bullet to penetrate 2” to 3” before it starts to expand. After the bullet starts to expand it will shed 40% to 85% of its weight as shrapnel into the surrounding tissue

15% percent weight retention is like using a jolly rancher for a bullet