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Re: michael waddell
[Re: tlh3842]
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09/17/12 10:06 PM
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RogueSamurai
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That is a really long ways..bad thing is, people will watch yes how and see him do it then think they can and end up wounding animals cause they thought If he could they could Yep. One of the worst things in and about hunting is shows about hunting.
I didn't learn this by seeing it on TV, I learned it by doing it.
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Re: michael waddell
[Re: Justin T]
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09/17/12 11:42 PM
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Curtis
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I have no doubt some can make 80 yard shots, but you cannot control the animal at that range. To each their own, but it seems like a bad idea to me. Very true. Then again. You can't control the animal at 10 yards or even closer either.
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Re: michael waddell
[Re: Curtis]
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09/17/12 11:44 PM
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Nogalus Prairie
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I have no doubt some can make 80 yard shots, but you cannot control the animal at that range. To each their own, but it seems like a bad idea to me. Very true. Then again. You can't control the animal at 10 yards or even closer either. I think the point is:at 10 yards you have alot more control than at 80 because they don't have a full second or more to change position.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: michael waddell
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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09/18/12 12:04 AM
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Stickchunker
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I used to work with a guy that practices at 120 yards, shoots a Strothers SR-71 Blackbird set at 90 pounds, he will and has several times shot elk at over 80 yards, but with being said, this guy shoots everyday starting around June.
Waddell is a pretty dang good shot, i dont doubt one bit that he cant make that shot on a consistant basis.
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Re: michael waddell
[Re: Stickchunker]
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09/18/12 12:14 AM
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Ttomlinson87
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I saw him miss a turkey at 20 yards with a shotgun
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Re: michael waddell
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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09/18/12 02:38 AM
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Curtis
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I have no doubt some can make 80 yard shots, but you cannot control the animal at that range. To each their own, but it seems like a bad idea to me. Very true. Then again. You can't control the animal at 10 yards or even closer either. I think the point is:at 10 yards you have alot more control than at 80 because they don't have a full second or more to change position. My point was at no distance can you control the animal. You never have any control of that but that is what he worded his statment as. The shooter has control only over his own actions and I think we all realize that. But that's is not the way he worded it. That's all. I do get it and I did realize that the animal can move a lot more at the farther distances. I guess I just see some hunters here miss a lot at very close ranges and it erks me when I hear them say they made a great shot even when they hit far back or way too high. I have seen axis bucks duck shots at less than half that distance he killed that elk at and even whitetail does duck arrows at 18 yards. A great bit of taking that shot opportunity is studying your animals posture to make those longer shots and how alert they are and shooting at paper targets and foam deer at 50 yards doesn't cut it. Not everyone practices the same way or studies game the same or has the ability to do what he did. I don't have anything against the shot he took. I do think he got pretty lucky but at the same time I think there was lot of skill in there for that shot as well. It's his own ability to do it and a good bit of luck in there too and I'm not going to slam the man for that. But I am saying and have already stated that I know my own limitations and I know I could never make a shot like that count.
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Re: michael waddell
[Re: Curtis]
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09/18/12 03:35 PM
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Justin T
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My point was at no distance can you control the animal. You never have any control of that but that is what he worded his statment as. The shooter has control only over his own actions and I think we all realize that. But that's is not the way he worded it. That's all. I do get it and I did realize that the animal can move a lot more at the farther distances.
I guess I just see some hunters here miss a lot at very close ranges and it erks me when I hear them say they made a great shot even when they hit far back or way too high. I have seen axis bucks duck shots at less than half that distance he killed that elk at and even whitetail does duck arrows at 18 yards. A great bit of taking that shot opportunity is studying your animals posture to make those longer shots and how alert they are and shooting at paper targets and foam deer at 50 yards doesn't cut it. Not everyone practices the same way or studies game the same or has the ability to do what he did. I don't have anything against the shot he took. I do think he got pretty lucky but at the same time I think there was lot of skill in there for that shot as well. It's his own ability to do it and a good bit of luck in there too and I'm not going to slam the man for that. But I am saying and have already stated that I know my own limitations and I know I could never make a shot like that count.
Exactly. Imagine what they can do at 80 yards. I have only 2 times ever shot a doe in the head, as they can move quite a bit, too. Both times the doe was injured and that was what I was presented with and both under 50 yards. I have yet to see a deer jump a bullet though.
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Re: michael waddell
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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09/18/12 04:01 PM
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rmac10
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I hunted with a guy in Wyoming that shot an antelope at 92 yards. It was pretty crazy being able to watch the arrow in flight.
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Re: michael waddell
[Re: rmac10]
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09/18/12 10:06 PM
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Jimbo
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Makes me wonder how many shots these "professional archers" took at long distances that you will never hear about, where the animal was completely missed or never found and the film ends up being edited.
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: michael waddell
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09/18/12 10:23 PM
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JDShellnut
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I'm not condoning shooting this far, but an elk is a much bigger target than a white tail. I think a lot of people forget that.
You can't compare shots like these with long range rifle shooting either. The biggest difference being that the animal doesn't hear anything from the rifle or bullet until after impact.
A deer can move a lot from the time they hear a bow shot til the time the arrow impacts. Elk can't move as much.
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Re: michael waddell
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09/19/12 01:27 AM
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Bassdeer
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40 for a deer and 50 for an elk, thats my happy zone. My super happy zone is under 20 for either.
Last edited by Bassdeer; 09/19/12 01:28 AM.
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Re: michael waddell
[Re: Bassdeer]
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09/20/12 05:16 PM
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switchln
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I won't shoot at anything more than 30 yards unless it's a really big buck. Never seen one of those in my bow stand, though, so I haven't had to make that decision.
What's more important than distance is waiting for a good clean shot (broadside or quartering away).
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Re: michael waddell
[Re: switchln]
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09/20/12 11:43 PM
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BBD84
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Id rather come tell the story of how I can smell the animal and feel the heat of its breath it was so close than make a shot like that, Nothing against him and hes a hell of a guy but IMO I bow hunt to get them close if not I get the gun out.
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Re: michael waddell
[Re: txhunter1010]
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09/22/12 02:34 AM
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TEXAN1970
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Oh for crying out loud, It's T.V. the guy made a cool shot on T.V. why doe's there have to be a debate over it !!!
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