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Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:20 PM
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How many of you are going to be hunting suppressed this season as a result of the new changes?
Unfortunately, my .223 can won't be approved for my 223ai until about 4-6 months from now, which means I'll be hauling my .243 comp gun, with an SWR Omega 300 attached, out to the blind....
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:21 PM
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txtrophy85
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whats the point of using a suppressed firearm to hunt deer.....besides to poach?
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:24 PM
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westtexaswatkins
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Would if I had one, just because they are cool.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
[Re: txtrophy85]
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08/29/12 06:26 PM
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whats the point of using a suppressed firearm to hunt deer.....besides to poach? I can't believe that this is an actual, serious question....surely you are joking, right?
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:28 PM
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whats the point of using a suppressed firearm to hunt deer.....besides to poach? Really? That's about as intelligent, and inflammatory, as some of the guys here asking why you like to shoot deer in high fence. Saving hearing is one reason.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:29 PM
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Navasot
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whats the point of using a suppressed firearm to hunt deer.....besides to poach? I can't believe that this is an actual, serious question....surely you are joking, right? I also think its dumb....and just going too far. Rifle hunting for deer has just feel out last few years
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:29 PM
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whats the point of using a suppressed firearm to hunt deer.....besides to poach? To save your ears? Thats the PURPOSE of a suppressor. If I had one, Id defintly use it. Especially for my daughter. Its always a pain trying to slip on her ear muffs when she's getting ready to shoot. She doesnt like to leave them on, even the digital ones. Its funny a lot of people think the only use for a suppressor is for poaching. Just think how much less hearing damage to sportman there would be if we all had our weapons suppressed.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:31 PM
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8pointdrop
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I dont see the point of a suppressor either.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:31 PM
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whats the point of using a suppressed firearm to hunt deer.....besides to poach? I can't believe that this is an actual, serious question....surely you are joking, right? I also think its dumb....and just going too far. Rifle hunting for deer has just feel out last few years What do you mean by "going too far"? In all honesty, if one was to poach, they'd be smart to use a bow rather than a suppressed rifle...
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:36 PM
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soccerguy4
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If someone was going to poach with a suppressor, why would they wait for it to be legal to hunt with a suppressor? Last time I checked, the criminals that poach game don't care about any laws.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:38 PM
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It's hilarious to me that people really think that someone would go through the following process, just for the sake of poaching:
1) set up a trust, LLC, or get CLEO to sign off 2) 4-6 month wait 3) cost of the actual suppressor 4) $200 tax 5) background checks from the ATF 6) pay $100-$250 for threading of the barrel
People are so scared of what they don't know....You can still shoot deer with your daddy's old 30-30, unsuppressed, don't worry guys. This thread is for the rest of us that will hunt suppressed, because it's legal, and because we can.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:41 PM
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8pointdrop
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I never mentioned poaching, just said I don't see the point. You're right you can, so go for it.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:44 PM
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i know i can buy alot of ear muffs to make up for 1 suppressor. I am not against it by noi means but dont see the point of it. I have never had a problem slipping on a $15 set of ear muffs before i shoot a deer or at the range. I hunt with serveral rifles at diff. times so that would limit me to one or get them all suppressed and as for me thats just not affordable.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:50 PM
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It's so the zombies won't hear you. Dang, some of you boys are so behind the times.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 06:52 PM
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Hollywood has created some mistaken impressions.
A typical 308 shot is around 160 db.
A suppressor typically reduces sound by about 30 - 33 db.
Ear muffs reduce another 30 db depending on the muffs, some are less.
The best foam plugs (Howard Leight MAX) reduce another 33 db.
Typical background noise is around 35 - 40 db.
I fire about 1,500 rounds a year in practice, and use a suppressor, ear muffs, and foam plugs under the muffs trying to save my hearing as best I can.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
[Re: txtrophy85]
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08/29/12 06:55 PM
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whats the point of using a suppressed firearm to hunt deer.....besides to poach? What's the point of owning a gun...besides to murder? What's the point of having a brain if you aren't going to use it?
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 07:03 PM
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Hollywood has created some mistaken impressions.
A typical 308 shot is around 160 db.
A suppressor typically reduces sound by about 30 - 33 db.
Ear muffs reduce another 30 db depending on the muffs, some are less.
The best foam plugs (Howard Leight MAX) reduce another 33 db.
Typical background noise is around 35 - 40 db.
I fire about 1,500 rounds a year in practice, and use a suppressor, ear muffs, and foam plugs under the muffs trying to save my hearing as best I can. So you gonna wear all that stuff when your out hunting as well?
James
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger" Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 07:08 PM
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jeffbird
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Hunting, I now always wear both ear muffs and foam plugs. Wish I would have in the past.
TBD on the suppressor for deer as it is a comparatively low number of rounds vs. practice, and the rifle is much handier without it on, but preserving hearing is important.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 07:10 PM
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whats the point of using a suppressed firearm to hunt deer.....besides to poach? I can't believe that this is an actual, serious question....surely you are joking, right? Why would you do it, waste of good money, could buy other toys.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 07:12 PM
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FIREDAVIS
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I have been hunting hogs suppressed for over a year now and I havent fired a rifle without a suppressor since purchasing mine. I have a multi-mount supressor I can use on anything centerfire up to a 308. It is nice because I can hear my bullets hit the animal, saves hearing, reduces recoil, reduces muzzle flash for night hunting hogs. Its is not as quiet as the movies show. My buddies can still hear me shoot my 308 from a good ways off but it is just not as loud. I have shot hogs with deer feeding in the same area while suppressed and they haul butt just like when any other rifle goes off. Its not like you can fill all your doe tags at once since they wont hear the gun shot. My wife also now enjoys shooting more now since using a suppressor.
When it comes to poaching. Poachers know the best time to deer hunt is March using a 22 and a spot light. Point being poachers will poach and I doubt they will spend the money on a suppressor.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 07:13 PM
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FIREDAVIS
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Oh yea and I will be hunting deer suppressed with my SPS tactical 308 with my AAC 762sd can. Or my 300 Blackout AR, and maybe my 223 AR.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 07:14 PM
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I dont see the point of a suppressor either. Why does it have to have a point? Why cant it be just because someone wants one? Why is it any of anyone business why someone wants something if its legal?
When you need a Piano moved there is always someone around to help you with the stool!
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 07:17 PM
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I can see them for hogs-you want to get as many of them suckers as you can.
I can see them for having fun.
Deer hunting? Meh...
The poacher argument sounds concerning at first blush but I'm not gonna think it will be a big problem until it actually happens. If it is a problem, making them legal to own and thus accessible opened that can of worms, not the recent law allowing hunting with them.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 07:17 PM
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whats the point of using a suppressed firearm to hunt deer.....besides to poach? I can't believe that this is an actual, serious question....surely you are joking, right? Why would you do it, waste of good money, could buy other toys. As mentioned, I will do it because it's legal and because I can. Suppressors are "other toys", at least for me. Additionally, they reduce recoil significantly (so my sight picture doesn't shift from odd positions of shooting), help with muzzle blast reduction, help tighten groups up, and are generally a good thing for hearing protection. Seriously, how are suppressors a "waste of good money"? Just because you say so? Have you ever shot a suppressed rifle? Have you ever hunted with one?
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Re: Deer Season Suppressed
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08/29/12 07:21 PM
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I am using one of these for dove on Saturday.
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