I care. B&C and low fence hunting is how generations before us hunted. Turning deer into livestock was not the way of our forefathers. A 130-140 Deer really meant something and it still should today, but the HF deer porn has taken some of the sport out of it. I've heard many losing interest in deer hunting and old low fence outfitters in Texas that can get you a 120-140 aren't booking as many hunts.

What I don't understand is the comparison between HF and Feeders...if all it took was a feeder, everyone would kill the biggest deer all the time. Not the case. On many (not all) HF operations, you can pretty much pick the class of deer you want to kill and you get to do it all in 3 days.

Deer became livestock the day they stopped migrating.

You get deer pictures of a buck on your place in Kansas for three years in a row...what else would you call him...he lives there

this makes no sense and is biggest misconception of HF rances. The main reason you can harverst the what your after deer, in 3 days, is not the fence; its the hours of scouting the owner/guide puts in prior to your arrival. Same goes for low fence. My ranch is low fence and it the same. If I dropped you off on my buddier 4K HF ranch in Zapata You could be there a week and never see a "tropy HF Buck" unless he set you up. He runs an adult deer to every 40 acres, good luck hunting 4-7 5year olds or better bucks on 4K........

The reason you pay more for the fence is to KEEP the CRAP out, not keep deer in.

You want a 200" lf deer call me, I know several lowfence ranches that can hook you up... Straight native genetics, born there no pens

Half the stuff you just mentioned is illegal and is happening in less then .5% of hf's

"Deer became livestock the day they stopped migrating."

Well you certainly have a broader definition of livestock than anybody else I have ever seen. If fact, it includes every animal on earth....

this makes no sense and is biggest misconception of HF rances. The main reason you can harverst the what your after deer, in 3 days, is not the fence; its the hours of scouting the owner/guide puts in prior to your arrival. Same goes for low fence. My ranch is low fence and it the same. If I dropped you off on my buddier 4K HF ranch in Zapata You could be there a week and never see a "tropy HF Buck" unless he set you up. He runs an adult deer to every 40 acres, good luck hunting 4-7 5year olds or better bucks on 4K........

The reason you pay more for the fence is to KEEP the CRAP out, not keep deer in.

You take any well managed ranch and your odds of seeing bucks goes up, it may not be a buck you are looking for though. Why? they manage for numbers, ratio and age structure. It may seem easier to those who have not hunted on well managed ranches but you are not hunting on a ranch like this to just kill a buck, you are hunting to kill a specific buck.
With todays emphasis and management, food plots, protein feeders, corn feeders, trail cams (that send pics to you), paid guides/outfitters to find your deer/game for you not much hunting is fair chase.

If very little of the hunting is "fair chase" and it is that easy, why doesn't everyone kill monster deer?

PM me the contact info. In Texas the closest to that I know is King Ranch and Novillos, but they top out at about 170-190.

I've got a young 130 I see once or twice a week all around my property. He goes to bean field about half mile away to southeast. Last and first 20 of light you can glass my north boundary county road and there will be a dozen various deer crossing between my heavy timber and the CRP & beans other side. I'm sure the rut will motivate a few to go places they normally don't, how far away I don't know. Studies show deer have different habits, some stick within mile, some will go 5-10 miles. I'm better off without a fence as there are some Booners in my neighborhood, but I haven't seen them on my place, maybe in rut.

I've got one on my place in Oklahoma that should break 200 this year. I had one last year taken off my place that ended up at 186" with min of 9" broke off. we shot one three years ago that broke 200(that one got posted, and lost one of my school leases to an outfitter because of it). All low fence,

I had a 212 mulie that I watched for 6 year before he got poach on my other places, missed him in bow season...and was killed 18 miles away in ml.. season ya right..

Your wrong about the king because I know some people that have leases their and have some that should break 190- 200 this year,

Hunting Whitetail on the King Ranch is an experience second to none. Shown to the right is the state record bow whitetail measuring 194 1/8. Prior to 1988, no records were kept of bucks that qualified for the Boone and Crockett Club. However, since that time, there have been twelve that qualified for the All-Time Awards book and numerous that qualified for the Annual Awards Book. In 1998, the top five bucks harvested on the ranch averaged more than 200 gross inches of antler. The best non-typical buck for that year, which is the best buck taken since records have been kept, grossed 246 B&C points and netted 239 5/8 B&C points. The best typical buck grossed 203 7/8 B&C points and netted 194 4/8 B&C points. In 2000, a bow hunter harvested a 215 3/8 gross B&C buck, net 197 5/8, non-typical.

mule deer can travel that distance quick! My buddies last one was shot 16 miles away from where he saw him the first morning...shot him on day 4.

This comment alone tells me you started this thread to attack and belittle others on this forum you disagree with and you are doing it over the internet which is typical of a bully.

As for the comments about how our fore fathers did it, the fact is the hunting culture, number of hunters and amount of land to hunt is so different from what grandpa did you can't compare it.

There are many things I may not agree with but are not mine to belittle another of as long as it is legal. I can choose not to. That should be enough.

I care. B&C and low fence hunting is how generations before us hunted. Turning deer into livestock was not the way of our forefathers. A 130-140 Deer really meant something and it still should today, but the HF deer porn has taken some of the sport out of it. I've heard many losing interest in deer hunting and old low fence outfitters in Texas that can get you a 120-140 aren't booking as many hunts.

You're right. My apologies.