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Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: Seadog] #307521 01/31/08 11:08 AM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 708 T texas8point Tracker
texas8point Tracker T Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 708	I feel bad for the guy, but he screwed up.

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: texas8point] #307522 01/31/08 12:23 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,043 Frisco TX O okbowhunter Veteran Tracker
okbowhunter Veteran Tracker O Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,043 Frisco TX	Nah he knew he didn't have his license and he want hunting anyway .... like others on here I have never forgotten to buy my license and legal up.

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: okbowhunter] #307523 01/31/08 01:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 32,626 Hickory Creek, Fannin Co. Texa... sig226fan (Rguns.com) duck & cover
sig226fan (Rguns.com) duck & cover Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 32,626 Hickory Creek, Fannin Co. Texa...	That's not the way I see/read this deal. Looks to me like they were starting a case on him and he got nervous and "turned himself in"...

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: Seadog] #307524 01/31/08 01:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,142 Lubbock, TX T tkuehn5410 Pro Tracker
tkuehn5410 Pro Tracker T Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,142 Lubbock, TX	If he were a true hunter he would have gotten his license during dove season.

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: sig226fan (Rguns.com)] #307525 01/31/08 01:12 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 110,840 Abilene or on the road... dogcatcher THF Celebrity
dogcatcher THF Celebrity Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 110,840 Abilene or on the road...	I would bet if it had been a doe or a spike he would have never went and bought a license. The only reason he went and bought the license was because of the horns and the notoriety that came with them. I knew there was a reason to not be a horn hunter, those things even get poachers in trouble. As for as losing the antlers, he probably will hate that more than the other punishment he is subject to. Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: yukons95] #307526 01/31/08 01:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 757 M M16 Tracker
M16 Tracker M Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 757	Quote: If he was smart he should of left it go buy a license then claim it. I know the way parks and wildlife are! It looks to me like the deer was killed in Michigan so why are you pulling TP&W into the fray? If the dumb ba.... was smart he would have done like most law abiding people and bought a license before he went hunting.

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: tkuehn5410] #307527 01/31/08 01:14 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 363 Forney, TX N NateDogg Bird Dog
NateDogg Bird Dog N Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 363 Forney, TX	I have never forgotten to buy my license, but I have forgotten to stick in my pocket or whatever when I go. I did it this year duck hunting, and when I got half way there I realized it. So I turned around, went home to get it and THEN went hunting. Yes, I got there late and potentially could have missed some game because of that, but I made sure I was legal. We were laughing about it after the hunt at the trucks when the game warden came by to check us. We kind of laughed about it with him and his comment was "You could have come hunting, taken a small ticket for not having the license and then show it in court later that you had it, you just forgot it." My answer to that is plain and simple, "Its my responsibility to have it on me at all times in the field, and I'd rather lose 2 hours of my trip than to not be legal and a bad example to others." He hasn't checked me again since. Vegitarian - old indian word for "lousy hunter"

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: coonymac] #307528 01/31/08 01:19 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 757 M M16 Tracker
M16 Tracker M Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 757	Quote: You are right Parks and Wildlife would not have made a fuss if it was a spike or a doe because they wouldnt have heard about it unless it was reported. The deer was killed in Michigan. Texas Parks and Wildlife had nothing to do with this. The Michigan DNR busted the guy for what he is.....a poacher.

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: sig226fan (Rguns.com)] #307529 01/31/08 01:38 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 11,002 Greg OP THF Celebrity
OP Greg THF Celebrity Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 11,002	Quote: That's not the way I see/read this deal. Looks to me like they were starting a case on him and he got nervous and "turned himself in"... Ditto. He turned himself in after he was feeling the heat. I personally don't think he ever had any thought of buying a license. When you shoot something this big, it will draw quite a group of people/media/magazines wanting the story.... I think that is the only reason he went back and got the license. Someone above said it.... why do certian people feel sorry for these things. He broke the law... now pay the price.

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: Greg] #307530 01/31/08 01:50 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,076 carrollton texas E easton1025 Veteran Tracker
easton1025 Veteran Tracker E Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,076 carrollton texas	I have the calande marked for august 15th every year to get my license..There have been times forgot my license in another vehicle on the way to hunt and stop and buy a replacement...He only buckled wher the heat was on...He knew the day he killed the deer he didnt have a license..throw the book at him...

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: Seadog] #307531 01/31/08 03:55 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,235 Scleicher County H highlonesome1 THF Trophy Hunter
highlonesome1 THF Trophy Hunter H Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,235 Scleicher County	What a maroon

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: Greg] #307532 01/31/08 05:20 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 9,794 St Hedwig I ILUVBIGBUCKS THF Trophy Hunter
ILUVBIGBUCKS THF Trophy Hunter I Joined: May 2006 Posts: 9,794 St Hedwig	If your that ignorant, then so be it! He's damn lucky it wasn't in Texas or he'd be paying a huge replacement cost on the animal as well! What a moron! That buck is going to look very nice in some wildlife dept office! STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES! High fence, low fence, no fence, it really doesn't matter as long as you're hunting!

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: ILUVBIGBUCKS] #307533 01/31/08 05:36 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 110,840 Abilene or on the road... dogcatcher THF Celebrity
dogcatcher THF Celebrity Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 110,840 Abilene or on the road...	I don't think he would have been in as much trouble in Texas as he is now, here is the part about the fines etc. he getting the honor of taking care of. The misdemeanor charge of unlawfully taking game carries a mandatory jail term of 5-93 days, a $1,000 fine, loss of hunting privileges for three years and forfeiture of the antlers. Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: highlonesome1] #307534 01/31/08 06:06 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 13,451 East Texas S Seadog THF Celebrity
Seadog THF Celebrity S Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 13,451 East Texas	Let me tell you what I really think. The guy is a total moron who got caught up in a web of lies and when the game official came to his door and called his bluff, he "turned himself in". He had probably been doing th same thing for years. The only difference in this case was the size of the rack. It was very news worthy and it probably attracted a lot of attention of the game officials!!! That's just my opinion!!! I support Cap and Trade - Cap our spending and Trade Obama I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the Government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. - Thomas Jefferson

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: coonymac] #307535 02/01/08 05:34 AM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,180 texas Y yukons95 Pro Tracker
yukons95 Pro Tracker Y Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,180 texas	right on that crayton missed catch!! that was worse! what a boring super bowl it is going to be!

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: Seadog] #307536 02/01/08 05:41 AM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,180 texas Y yukons95 Pro Tracker
yukons95 Pro Tracker Y Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,180 texas	If you were hunting and saw a 200 bc deer across the low fence, and knew no one was in the other ranch would you shoot and cover the evidence?? M16 and knew you could get away with it? I know you would not give up on that!! Thats a fact! i have seen it too many times, unless you hunt where 200 class trophy's run all over your ranch!

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: yukons95] #307537 02/01/08 01:08 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 32,626 Hickory Creek, Fannin Co. Texa... sig226fan (Rguns.com) duck & cover
sig226fan (Rguns.com) duck & cover Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 32,626 Hickory Creek, Fannin Co. Texa...	Quote: If you were hunting and saw a 200 bc deer across the low fence, and knew no one was in the other ranch would you shoot and cover the evidence?? M16 and knew you could get away with it? I know you would not give up on that!! Thats a fact! i have seen it too many times, unless you hunt where 200 class trophy's run all over your ranch! I don't think I would. And I don't think I'd make that judgement of others, unless this was directed at someone specifically on here that you know about. But that's just me.

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: yukons95] #307538 02/01/08 01:38 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 8,591 Houston T Tres THF Trophy Hunter
Tres THF Trophy Hunter T Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 8,591 Houston	Quote: If you were hunting and saw a 200 bc deer across the low fence, and knew no one was in the other ranch would you shoot and cover the evidence?? I would shoot, and then I would tag it with the license I bought BEFORE hutning season began...if you hunt and you don't have a license, you are a poacher...period. "Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before."

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: yukons95] #307539 02/01/08 01:41 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 757 M M16 Tracker
M16 Tracker M Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 757	Quote: If you were hunting and saw a 200 bc deer across the low fence, and knew no one was in the other ranch would you shoot and cover the evidence?? M16 and knew you could get away with it? I know you would not give up on that!! Thats a fact! i have seen it too many times, unless you hunt where 200 class trophy's run all over your ranch! You obviously don't know me. Hell no I wouldn't shoot a deer across the fence and I don't care how big he was. Let me tell you a little story. I friend of mine found a really good deer lease and invited me to join. The third year on the lease I shot a really big deer. The next year opening morning I had another huge deer within a hundred yards and could have easily shot him. I called my friend who put the lease together and had never shot a really big deer and told him the area where I had seen the buck. He found the buck the next day and called and asked if I was sure it was alright for him to shoot the deer. I said to go ahead. The buck grossed 187 and almost made Boone&Crockett. The next year I was rewarded with a buck that grossed 182 and did net high enough to make book. So the bottom line is that yea I hunt for horns. But I do it in a legal and ethical manner. But the friends made while hunting are more important then the biggest buck that ever walked. I couldn't stand to have an illegal deer hanging on my wall. I have earned my stuff the hard way and am not about to become a thief because when you poach thats exactly what you are. The poacher who shot this deer may have stolen the opportunity from a legal hunter. The man didn't turn himself in. Instead of going to the game warden he went and bought a license. He just admitted the crime after he knew he was caught.

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: Tres] #307540 02/01/08 01:57 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 8,591 Houston T Tres THF Trophy Hunter
Tres THF Trophy Hunter T Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 8,591 Houston	Quote: If you were hunting and saw a 200 bc deer across the low fence, and knew no one was in the other ranch would you shoot and cover the evidence?? Guess I read that wrong, I would never shoot a deer across my property line, hope we're not neighbors! "Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before."

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: Greg] #307541 02/01/08 02:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 805 Muenster, TX R RedRiverHogSniper Tracker
RedRiverHogSniper Tracker R Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 805 Muenster, TX	I am all for aquiring the proper license and tags. but I would be willing to bet you that if it was a spike or doe, It wouldn't even have raised the eyebrow of the DNR. Not on this guys side or anything, I am just saying. www.floplastfits.com www.coxoutdoors.com

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: yukons95] #307542 02/01/08 02:23 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 9,794 St Hedwig I ILUVBIGBUCKS THF Trophy Hunter
ILUVBIGBUCKS THF Trophy Hunter I Joined: May 2006 Posts: 9,794 St Hedwig	Quote: If you were hunting and saw a 200 bc deer across the low fence, and knew no one was in the other ranch would you shoot and cover the evidence?? M16 and knew you could get away with it? I know you would not give up on that!! Thats a fact! i have seen it too many times, unless you hunt where 200 class trophy's run all over your ranch! I can only speak for myself, not anyone else on this board, and neither should you unless you know them personally! I not only would never poach a deer, I'd hold anyone I caught doing it at gun point until the Game Warden gets there! A poacher is a thief, no different then one who robs a liquor store!!!!!!! High fence, low fence, no fence, it really doesn't matter as long as you're hunting!

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: M16] #307543 02/01/08 02:25 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 9,794 St Hedwig I ILUVBIGBUCKS THF Trophy Hunter
ILUVBIGBUCKS THF Trophy Hunter I Joined: May 2006 Posts: 9,794 St Hedwig	Quote: Quote: If you were hunting and saw a 200 bc deer across the low fence, and knew no one was in the other ranch would you shoot and cover the evidence?? M16 and knew you could get away with it? I know you would not give up on that!! Thats a fact! i have seen it too many times, unless you hunt where 200 class trophy's run all over your ranch! You obviously don't know me. Hell no I wouldn't shoot a deer across the fence and I don't care how big he was. Let me tell you a little story. I friend of mine found a really good deer lease and invited me to join. The third year on the lease I shot a really big deer. The next year opening morning I had another huge deer within a hundred yards and could have easily shot him. I called my friend who put the lease together and had never shot a really big deer and told him the area where I had seen the buck. He found the buck the next day and called and asked if I was sure it was alright for him to shoot the deer. I said to go ahead. The buck grossed 187 and almost made Boone&Crockett. The next year I was rewarded with a buck that grossed 182 and did net high enough to make book. So the bottom line is that yea I hunt for horns. But I do it in a legal and ethical manner. But the friends made while hunting are more important then the biggest buck that ever walked. I couldn't stand to have an illegal deer hanging on my wall. I have earned my stuff the hard way and am not about to become a thief because when you poach thats exactly what you are. The poacher who shot this deer may have stolen the opportunity from a legal hunter. The man didn't turn himself in. Instead of going to the game warden he went and bought a license. He just admitted the crime after he knew he was caught. High fence, low fence, no fence, it really doesn't matter as long as you're hunting!

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: RedRiverHogSniper] #307544 02/01/08 02:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 6 B Bigmike17 Green Horn
Bigmike17 Green Horn B Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 6	He didn't turn himself in! He simply owned up when he was cornered with the truth. Turning himself in would have been calling the Game Warden as soon as he realized he had no license and tags, not waiting for the Badge and GUN to show up at his fron door. Ethics- Is when you do what is right (legal) when you are alone, and no likely to be caught doing otherwise.

Re: 24 Point Deer Taken away... [Re: yukons95] #307545 02/01/08 02:59 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 17,745 Big D T Txduckman THF Celebrity
Txduckman THF Celebrity T Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 17,745 Big D	Quote: If you were hunting and saw a 200 bc deer across the low fence, and knew no one was in the other ranch would you shoot and cover the evidence?? M16 and knew you could get away with it? I know you would not give up on that!! Thats a fact! i have seen it too many times, unless you hunt where 200 class trophy's run all over your ranch! I would say the last part of your statement is more true about M16 than the first part.

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