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Re: Do you have remorse [Re: passthru] #2957746 01/25/12 01:14 AM
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did you know all creatures were created from dust, all except one, care to guess which one




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Originally Posted By: LandPirate
Not remorse but empathy. One moment that big ol' buck was the stud of these woods and then he died at my hands and by my doing. I have a profound respect for the animals I hunt.

With that said, I'm a trophy hunter. I only want the biggest, oldest bucks I can find. However, I eat every bit of the meat from the deer I kill. I am not hunting because I need the meat. I can get beef, pork, or chicken a whole lot cheaper and with a lot less effort. Hunting fulfills a primal urge that many of us share.


This about sums it up for me as well.



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Re: Do you have remorse [Re: MikeC] #2957825 01/25/12 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: MikeC
Originally Posted By: LandPirate
Not remorse but empathy. One moment that big ol' buck was the stud of these woods and then he died at my hands and by my doing. I have a profound respect for the animals I hunt.

With that said, I'm a trophy hunter. I only want the biggest, oldest bucks I can find. However, I eat every bit of the meat from the deer I kill. I am not hunting because I need the meat. I can get beef, pork, or chicken a whole lot cheaper and with a lot less effort. Hunting fulfills a primal urge that many of us share.


This about sums it up for me as well.






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I hunt and fish for meat. Horns or size are just a bonus.


Re: Do you have remorse [Re: vanguard] #2957878 01/25/12 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: vanguard
did you know all creatures were created from dust, all except one, care to guess which one


Jesus



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Originally Posted By: vanguard
did you know all creatures were created from dust, all except one, care to guess which one


It was me, but they had to add a little water and some carbon and some other organic stuff.





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Re: Do you have remorse [Re: MikeC] #2958432 01/25/12 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: MikeC
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did you know all creatures were created from dust, all except one, care to guess which one


Jesus


woman, she was created from the rib of man




Re: Do you have remorse [Re: vanguard] #2958508 01/25/12 05:06 AM
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Lots of great responses... Great thread! I am glad to say that I am in complete agreement with what is a clear majority of the posts. up


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Me too. I feel bad for anyone that does not have empathy for the animals they hunt. I know someone like this,a young guy who wants to be a Billy-badarse. He actually hates animals.We have to watch him like a hawk.(neighbor)He would shoot a doe as it's fawn suckles her teat.He's rude to his wife too and ONCE kicked my dog. The boy is setting himself up for a good ol' west Texas arse whoopin.



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The dictionary defines remorse as regret of wrong doing.
There is nothing wrong with hunting/killing legally/ethically.

I have no remorse.


Re: Do you have remorse [Re: ch1966] #2959127 01/25/12 03:32 PM
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it also defines remorse as compassion




Re: Do you have remorse [Re: vanguard] #2959165 01/25/12 03:42 PM
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Yeah but to me in order to feel compasion for the deer/duck/hog you have to wish it was still alive, and if you wish it was still alive, yet you spend countless thousands of dollars and weeks out of the year preparing to kill it then you need to be admitted.

I feel no bad feelings whatsoever for killing a deer, only joy i get from the thrill of the hunt continuing a tradition, and bringing home meat which is another tradition in making sausage and jerky and such.

The only time I feel bad is when jacklegs get on here and post of pictures of the unborn fetus out of the the momma holding them in their hands. That pisses me off and in my opinion is poor tast and shouldnt be done. It doesnt bother me in the least to shoot a bread doe, but I WILL NOT TAKE THE FEATUS OUT AND PLAY WITH IT!

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Re: Do you have remorse [Re: redchevy] #2959287 01/25/12 04:13 PM
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They're dead too, might as well cut them out and measure them


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Yeah your great grandparents are probably dead too, dont mean you gotta mess with their dead bodies, some things to me are just better left alone and thats one of them.



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Re: Do you have remorse [Re: redchevy] #2959373 01/25/12 04:41 PM
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Yeah your great grandparents are probably dead too, dont mean you gotta mess with their dead bodies, some things to me are just better left alone and thats one of them.


Your definition of "playing" with something is someone else's definition of "research." People study human cadavers all the time for research, what is the difference?



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It was part of the record keeping that I do on doe that are killed. It tells you when the rut was and how it went. Also tells you how healthy your herd is. Lots of data to be had when digging thru a gut pile.



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I'm all for research, and dead is dead. However posting pictures of the fetus I too consider unnecessary. If you want to enlighten us on the research, just post the research...


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The older I get the more "remorse" I feel when I kill something. I normally kill 10-20 deer per season. This season I killed 1 and felt bad for doing that. I know there is nothing wrong with killing them and have done it all my life. Not sure why all of the sudden I feel bad for shooting them. I walked up to the one I killed this year and got down on my knees and thanked God for the wonderful resource we have and I felt some better about it.


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Originally Posted By: swmays
I'm all for research, and dead is dead. However posting pictures of the fetus I too consider unnecessary. If you want to enlighten us on the research, just post the research...


That was kinda my point maybe I didnt word it clearly. You do what you gotta do, dont mean you need to put it out there for everyone to see



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I'm all for research, and dead is dead. However posting pictures of the fetus I too consider unnecessary. If you want to enlighten us on the research, just post the research...


That was kinda my point maybe I didnt word it clearly. You do what you gotta do, dont mean you need to put it out there for everyone to see


So because it offends you, no one should do it? What if the research that they are doing is informative to me and the pictures would help me to better understand what I need to be looking at? Just saying that there are things posted that some don't agree with, but I don't think it should be censored because it offends others. Just my 2cents

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Originally Posted By: MikeC
Originally Posted By: LandPirate
Not remorse but empathy. One moment that big ol' buck was the stud of these woods and then he died at my hands and by my doing. I have a profound respect for the animals I hunt.

With that said, I'm a trophy hunter. I only want the biggest, oldest bucks I can find. However, I eat every bit of the meat from the deer I kill. I am not hunting because I need the meat. I can get beef, pork, or chicken a whole lot cheaper and with a lot less effort. Hunting fulfills a primal urge that many of us share.


This about sums it up for me as well.


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Very interesting topic.

There are times when I have a moment of realization about what the harvest meant to the animal. I'm not sure I would call it remorse, exactly, since I don't feel conflicted about my reasons for doing it and am not in doubt about whether or not it was wrong, it's just a moment of compassion; a faint and vague glimpse of what it would be like in their shoes. I don't really have the language to describe it more precisely than that.


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Originally Posted By: LandPirate
Not remorse but empathy. One moment that big ol' buck was the stud of these woods and then he died at my hands and by my doing. I have a profound respect for the animals I hunt.

With that said, I'm a trophy hunter. I only want the biggest, oldest bucks I can find. However, I eat every bit of the meat from the deer I kill. I am not hunting because I need the meat. I can get beef, pork, or chicken a whole lot cheaper and with a lot less effort. Hunting fulfills a primal urge that many of us share.


If I had read the above before I commented I would have just said "X4"


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LandPirates comment fits me as well. I have also on many occasions stopped and put many different dying animals out of their misery just to end the suffering.

I eat most of what I kill aside from coyotes or rogue domestic animals. Only kill what I think needs to be killed. I spend more time watching and coaching my kids now than I use to.


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