So, it's OK to take a dump on the ground at camp, but it's not OK to dig a pit and take a dump in the pit? That's just crazy.

Basically, yes. I think it's crazy, too.

When I lived in New England for a few years and hunted, people actually used portable RV-style dump stations to carry their waste if they did not have a traditional, composting-style outhouse. Law enforcement was pretty strict on this even in rural Maine and New Hampshire!

Surprise the northeast the government is in everybody sh** literally apparently.

I missed that you wanted a better answer before my last post but I think the answer is wait until you know if your going to stay there to do anything. Like renting a house why lease a place and improve only for the next guy or the LO. If you have to have a better bathroom rebuild the old outhouse or buy your own place and do everything the right way. Even if you just build a simple septic system and a bathroom you can build in a day your putting in close 1K in improvements that you will never see any benefit from other than better place to park your caboose on your weekend hunting trips. Like you said you might not even want to be there beyond this year. The landowner could kick you off at anytime unless you have a contract, he could have plans to tear the house down, or build a new one who knows or get sick of leasing all together, or let a family member hunt and you want out. Im not trying to be negative or stomp the idea but it just doesn't seem like a wise way to spend the money until you have less unknowns or a place of your own. If you have the money and don't care about blowing it just save it. The amount of times you sit on that toilet won't add up to justify spending that time or money. Nobody likes plumbing so if you do it make it right the first time so you don't have to screw with it or make it on the right piece of property so you don't have to start over.

good gracious read the law

Texas law does allow for an OSSF to be exempt from permitting if the OSSF:
�serves a single family residence on a tract of land that is 10 acres or larger,
�is not causing a nuisance or polluting groundwater,
�all parts of the OSSF are at least 100 feet from the property line,
�the effluent is disposed of on the property, and
�the single family residence is the only dwelling located on the tract of land.

Buy a $500,00 dollar motor home and carry it home with you or a $20.00 shovel. Think I would consider a new hobby.

Doesn't it also say it has to meet all these criteria? If there is more than one trailer hooked to it does it still meet the requirements listed? Also, unless it is actually built or installed as in a house or a mobile home, it would not be a single family residence. Would building a building and having it as a bathroom qualify? I ask because my Dad and oldest sister bought some land and the are looking for loopholes so they can do something cheap and I would like to know your interpretation as it differs from mine.

That's correct.

1 trailer house and self-installed OSSF on 10+ acres = Allowed
2 trailer house and one self-installed OSSF on 10+ acres = Illegal
2 trailer house and two self-installed OSSF on 10+ acres = Illegal
2 trailer houses with permitted and properly installed OSSF on 10+ acres = Allowed

It doesn't matter if the above is 10+ or 10,000+ acres, the rule applies equally.

Below 10 acres, it must be a permitted OSSF.

A lot of folks put in an oversized septic and share it between two dwellings i.e. main house and "mother in law" trailer. Not legal in *most* circumstances. It can be done properly.

SSS (**** Shovel Silence)

I still vote cedar bush, dealt with the state inspecters a couple of times, bunch of folks that think they're way more important than what they are

I have seen the pit method work. Does get a smell to it though.

Why not just chit on the ground. It will eventually dry up and blow away

I crap better squatting beside a tree way better than setting on a pot any day!!! Suck it up and go crap in the woods! What has this world come to when a man cant crap in the woods? Cut the bottom out of a 5 gallon bucket to set on if you dont want any sticks poking you in the butt.....

Tell your wife or grandkids that at 2am and see how that plays out.

Posthole digger and portable outhouse and toilet seat. Works for the two of us. If the wife comes along I have to bring the toy hauler.

Between crapping and pissing in the woods and not damming up creeks everyone is cracking up since deer season is over. Looks like it is going to be a long 7 months.

OP, if your lease is in the hill country, I can hook you up with a septic installer that will give you a turn-key package.

We do remote fly in trips to Canadian lakes every year and all use the same system in their cabins, 55 gallon plastic drums cut in half with 2 rope handles. Put about 4 inches of compost in the bottom and leave a bag beside it, when making a deposit you simply scoop out a little compost and cover it up, no smell and no mess. You can put this in an outdoor tent or modify the cabin so it can de removed from the outside. When full you take it away from camp, empty it and stack some wood over the top and burn it. Sure beat's mixing diesel with it and burning it in a steel drum. Just rig up a portable toilet seat to go over the top.

Hey, ya get a little older and "Where am I going to sleep?" and "Where am I going to poop?" get to be a helluva lot more important than "Are the deer big enough that when I kill one it'll make my 'friends' envious on Farcebook?"

Meshawtx, you assume that people here are going to turn in their neighbor.

Personally, as long as they are not bothering me, I could not care less what they do.

To the OP... go with the 2 barrels, don't go with them. There are plenty of links on here that show you how to build a septic that will work for you. Either go that route or go the route of hiring someone to do it legal for you.

Where I am, they charge at LEAST $25,000 to install a "septic system" that would make the county happy.

No way am I installing a septic system that cost almost as much as the cabin.

Totally up to you.

All the legal mumbo jumbo, we are not lawyers, but we can cut and paste legal stuff we find on the Internet. Go talk to a plumber, if ya like and they will set you straight, or at least sign off on it if you hire them.

GL!

Russ

Two very important questions when deciding on a hunt.