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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: M. A. Sotelo]
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12/07/11 12:51 AM
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retrieverman
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If a guy really wants to hunt, he would want to own his own gun. That being said, I own quite a few rifles and have a couple that I use as "loaners", BUT if something ever comes back "off" or broken, the borrower will never be welcome to one again. yea, and right before deer season when we meet up for family gatherings theyre like "so when are we going hunting?!" idk how theyre gonna hunt if they dont have a rifle..im sure if i could afford a hunting rifle when i was 16 they can set some money aside for a deer rifle It comes down to priorities. I have a similar problem in my family. I loaned a family member a Leupold scope about 5 years ago until he could afford what he wanted (Zeiss Conquest), and he hunted my scope on his gun yet another season. He seems to always have the time and money to go to the "boats" but can't seem to scrape up enough money for his own scope. 
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: Stoney]
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12/07/11 12:54 AM
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M. A. Sotelo
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I may have to break down and put a scope on my 30-30 but until then no one is going near my rifles unless im with them..
Nothin teaches you to be a better shot than tracking the ones you barely hit..
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: retrieverman]
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12/07/11 12:57 AM
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M. A. Sotelo
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If a guy really wants to hunt, he would want to own his own gun. That being said, I own quite a few rifles and have a couple that I use as "loaners", BUT if something ever comes back "off" or broken, the borrower will never be welcome to one again. yea, and right before deer season when we meet up for family gatherings theyre like "so when are we going hunting?!" idk how theyre gonna hunt if they dont have a rifle..im sure if i could afford a hunting rifle when i was 16 they can set some money aside for a deer rifle It comes down to priorities. I have a similar problem in my family. I loaned a family member a Leupold scope about 5 years ago until he could afford what he wanted (Zeiss Conquest), and he hunted my scope on his gun yet another season. He seems to always have the time and money to go to the "boats" but can't seem to scrape up enough money for his own scope. my brother is a real tightass, 2 years ago when we were at bass pro shop I said "why dont u take a look at the rifles so u can stop using mine" his response was "what for, i kill big deer with yours"... and this year when he was "talking" about getting a new rifle he said "if i buy one im going to get a .270 because i know u have alot of ammo for it"..really?!
Nothin teaches you to be a better shot than tracking the ones you barely hit..
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: M. A. Sotelo]
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12/07/11 01:10 AM
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retrieverman
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my brother is a real tightass, 2 years ago when we were at bass pro shop I said "why dont u take a look at the rifles so u can stop using mine" his response was "what for, i kill big deer with yours"...
and this year when he was "talking" about getting a new rifle he said "if i buy one im going to get a .270 because i know u have alot of ammo for it"..really?!
With that attitude, I would "cut the cord" no question. 
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: retrieverman]
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12/07/11 01:11 AM
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M. A. Sotelo
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my brother is a real tightass, 2 years ago when we were at bass pro shop I said "why dont u take a look at the rifles so u can stop using mine" his response was "what for, i kill big deer with yours"...
and this year when he was "talking" about getting a new rifle he said "if i buy one im going to get a .270 because i know u have alot of ammo for it"..really?!
With that attitude, I would "cut the cord" no question. I sure have..
Nothin teaches you to be a better shot than tracking the ones you barely hit..
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: M. A. Sotelo]
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12/07/11 01:17 AM
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thats tough, man. I understand the whole friends and family angle, but lets face reality. Hunting is an expensive pursuit; the equipment, the clothing, the lease and fees, feeders and corn, etc., can add up quick. If someone can't afford even the basic equipment, say, a rifle of your own, maybe they should try a different hobby. It sucks that he puts you on the spot like that. I've worked hard to get the rifles I've purchased and work equally hard to preserve the ones my late father left to me. I wouldn't lend them out. 
always room for another buddy!
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: wrknonit]
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12/07/11 01:27 AM
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Buy a Mosin, make it your loaner rifle, problem solved.
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: Payne]
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12/07/11 01:30 AM
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wrknonit
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always room for another buddy!
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: Payne]
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12/07/11 01:34 AM
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Buy a Mosin, make it your loaner rifle, problem solved. Good advice. Many years ago when I smoked, I had a co-worker who always bummed cigarettes from me. I bought a pack of Camels with no filters and started giving those to him, and before that pack was gone he moved on to someone else.
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: M. A. Sotelo]
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12/07/11 01:40 AM
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dredd
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In general, no.
I had a "buddy" in the past state that he was going to go hunting (never had before) and flat out said: Hey blah blah blah.... and I can use your gun.
Me: Um sorry, but no. I do not loan my guns out. He was insulted, but oh well. Like I said, just a "buddy".
Now.... I have a very dear friend that wanted to get into hunting. I taught him how to scout for deer, figure out where they were moving etc etc etc
I taught him how to conceal himself with brush and a decent back drop etc
Season came, and we had a really good idea where he needed to be. He met me at the property the eve of our hunt with a 30-06 he had borrowed from his b.i.l.. Note: He never asked to borrow my rifle. He also had been shooting and practicing very seriously. I got him "trained" with my beloved Ruger 270 that I got for my 16th birthday in 1980. This rifle is a killer and means the world to me.
Fast forward....
So he shows up fully prepared.... While we're sitting there talking about his upcoming morning, I reach into the truck and grab my 270. He says: Oh, you going out also? Me: Nope, this is for you. Good Luck!!! He was stunned and kinda dumbfounded. It was really a cool moment.
He made me very proud. He let a better buck walk because he didn't have the shot that he really wanted and needed. He ended up with a decent buck after that.
I have a couple of friends I'd give anything I have to.
But in general, no, I do not loan my hard earned hardware out.
Like so many of y'alls replies, I think it's better to just say no. It makes for a lot less issues. They may get their panties in a wad, but you won't have to worry about your stuff! :-)
Sorry for the sappy story, but the topic brought back a great time and memory for me.
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: M. A. Sotelo]
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12/07/11 01:47 AM
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Quick question to everyone out there. Do you let friends or family borrow your go to gun/rifle? Hmm, depends. I've got a brother who isn't into hunting, but if he asked me to borrow a rifle because he got invited to go on a hunt, I'd lend him my 30-30. I'd want him to have an enjoyable time and get into hunting. Now if it took and he enjoyed hunting, I'd let him know he needs to get his own rifle. If he didn't have the money, and by that I mean, he's saving to get car repaired or pay for wife's RN classes, I'd get him one. But I would not continue to lend him my rifle indefinatly.
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: Hopedale]
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12/07/11 01:57 AM
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dredd
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And to add... My friend bought his own rifle shortly afterwards.
He even picked up a 270. Go figure??? LOL
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: M. A. Sotelo]
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12/07/11 02:01 AM
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Quick question to everyone out there. Do you let friends or family borrow your go to gun/rifle? No, not ever.
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: Spent Brass]
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12/07/11 02:28 AM
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My "go to rifle" NO! There is only 1 person that I would trust with that & still hate to do it, a different rifle yes if I think I can trust you. I normally don't even loan out power tools to friends or family, I've just had too many bad experiences with all of that. Example: a fishing buddy of mine wanted to borrow my new Stihl chainsaw the other day to go cut some firewood at a friends place. I hated to be that way, but I told him no. I did, however offer to come & cut the wood for him if I was in town. Alot of folks just don't take care of things the way that I do, that's just me.
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: Spent Brass]
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12/07/11 02:33 AM
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I have 2 primary rifles. They make every trip with me. Once they are ready for season to start, no one else gets near them. I have others I would consider loaning, but the 2 primary rifles are mine and mine only.
Why 2 rifles? Hunting is a long way from home and hunting weekends are hard earned. If I happened to drop one and break the scope or have any other sort of problem, I would hate to have my hunt ruined. A NASCAR team never shows up at the track without 2 cars, so I figure it's only proper that I never show up without 2 rifles.
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: Stoney]
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12/07/11 02:34 AM
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: pokerj2]
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12/07/11 02:59 AM
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my go to guns never, but I have a few that I would loan out if I trusted you.
trucks and trailers on the other hand dont ask been burned too many times
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: Stoney]
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12/07/11 03:02 AM
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I lend friends and family my guns no sweat. One time I even lent my bow to a friend who is the same draw length as me (this was the first and last time this occurred after what I am going to tell you next.) When giving the bow back he told me that he practiced with it before going hunting and made a few "minor" sight adjustments because it wasn't shooting straight for him. I was PISSED!!!
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: Stoney]
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12/07/11 03:21 AM
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I don't loan anything. My pops and me swap sometimes just for the sake of doing it. I will however take a guy to my land and allow him to shooot multiple guns to see what best fits him.
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: wrknonit]
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12/07/11 03:22 AM
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M. A. Sotelo
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thats tough, man. I understand the whole friends and family angle, but lets face reality. Hunting is an expensive pursuit; the equipment, the clothing, the lease and fees, feeders and corn, etc., can add up quick. If someone can't afford even the basic equipment, say, a rifle of your own, maybe they should try a different hobby. It sucks that he puts you on the spot like that. I've worked hard to get the rifles I've purchased and work equally hard to preserve the ones my late father left to me. I wouldn't lend them out. they dont conside the time you have to put in at the range, range fees, ammo..they just think its like a video game where they can pick out a gun with all the ammo and head out..
Nothin teaches you to be a better shot than tracking the ones you barely hit..
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: Hopedale]
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12/07/11 03:27 AM
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M. A. Sotelo
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Quick question to everyone out there. Do you let friends or family borrow your go to gun/rifle? Hmm, depends. I've got a brother who isn't into hunting, but if he asked me to borrow a rifle because he got invited to go on a hunt, I'd lend him my 30-30. I'd want him to have an enjoyable time and get into hunting. Now if it took and he enjoyed hunting, I'd let him know he needs to get his own rifle. If he didn't have the money, and by that I mean, he's saving to get car repaired or pay for wife's RN classes, I'd get him one. But I would not continue to lend him my rifle indefinatly. I started off with a 30-30 myself so i dont see what the big deal is to use it. i guess they think theyll get laughed at if they show up with a lever action rifle
Nothin teaches you to be a better shot than tracking the ones you barely hit..
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: dredd]
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12/07/11 03:30 AM
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M. A. Sotelo
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In general, no.
I had a "buddy" in the past state that he was going to go hunting (never had before) and flat out said: Hey blah blah blah.... and I can use your gun.
Me: Um sorry, but no. I do not loan my guns out. He was insulted, but oh well. Like I said, just a "buddy".
Now.... I have a very dear friend that wanted to get into hunting. I taught him how to scout for deer, figure out where they were moving etc etc etc
I taught him how to conceal himself with brush and a decent back drop etc
Season came, and we had a really good idea where he needed to be. He met me at the property the eve of our hunt with a 30-06 he had borrowed from his b.i.l.. Note: He never asked to borrow my rifle. He also had been shooting and practicing very seriously. I got him "trained" with my beloved Ruger 270 that I got for my 16th birthday in 1980. This rifle is a killer and means the world to me.
Fast forward....
So he shows up fully prepared.... While we're sitting there talking about his upcoming morning, I reach into the truck and grab my 270. He says: Oh, you going out also? Me: Nope, this is for you. Good Luck!!! He was stunned and kinda dumbfounded. It was really a cool moment.
He made me very proud. He let a better buck walk because he didn't have the shot that he really wanted and needed. He ended up with a decent buck after that.
I have a couple of friends I'd give anything I have to.
But in general, no, I do not loan my hard earned hardware out.
Like so many of y'alls replies, I think it's better to just say no. It makes for a lot less issues. They may get their panties in a wad, but you won't have to worry about your stuff! :-)
Sorry for the sappy story, but the topic brought back a great time and memory for me.
That was the reason I bought my own, when i hunted with my grandfather he would lend me his .270, but if my uncle was on the same trip the .270 went to him and i would hunt with a 30-30.. which i didnt mind, because i really like hunting, the iron sights made it more of a hunting experience because i had to get up close..I too ended up buying the rifle caliber i was used to .270
Nothin teaches you to be a better shot than tracking the ones you barely hit..
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: M. A. Sotelo]
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12/07/11 04:34 AM
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I let a relative who shall go unnamed use one of my good rifles to "go after a hog" while we were hunting together. He strapped it on his 4 wheeler in its soft case and left.
That night it started raining. After about 4 hours of rain I got an 'Oh s***' feeling,checked his rig and-yep-it was still strapped on it. Surface rust had already formed on the end of the barrel where it was touching the case.
His "I'm sorry" didn't make it disappear.
Only a kid who is with me or someone I trust ALOT can use mine now.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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12/07/11 04:43 AM
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I have no problem if I am there, if not my daughter, my wife, and my taxidermist (best friend) outside those three definitely not but all three of them can at any time use any one they need including my customs.
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Re: Borrowing rifles
[Re: BMD]
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12/07/11 05:44 AM
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I have 2 kinds of guns; custom built bolt rifles and fairly spendy single shots Blaser/Ruger #1.
I was single from the time I was 25 until I was 36 so I had plenty of time to aquire guns without all the typical life time drama financial issues.
Every bolt rifle I have has a fiberglass stock on it, and I don't hunt much with the single shots (but my father uses all of them all the time).
If a gun gets scratched I don't get mad about it. Life is too short to let superficial things get in between family and friends.
My father did the wet guncase rifle trick and rusted a custom M700 pretty good. Cleaned it up, and it still shot well. A couple years later it needed a new barrel and got one, with the Cerakote.
Don't get so up tight about personal belongings, every gun company in the world will make more.
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