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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: stxranchman]
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11/17/11 02:50 AM
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Our biologist says cull them if missing either or both brow tines, no matter what age. I let a 1.5yr old walk last year missing one brow. He is another year older and still missing same brow tine. I've taken note that all the bucks missing brows last year are still missing them this year.
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
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11/17/11 02:52 AM
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because you can a good taxidermist can fix the problem for you for a fee. Why add something there that that deer never had anyways?
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: mustafa]
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11/17/11 02:56 AM
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because you can a good taxidermist can fix the problem for you for a fee. Why add something there that that deer never had anyways? a little off topic: but if I had a 3 legged deer I wanted a full body mount done on, I'd make sure the finished product had 4 legs.
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: rifleman]
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11/17/11 02:58 AM
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
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11/17/11 02:59 AM
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stxranchman, you would be right in most scenarios.... but i hunt a small parcel of land in south mississippi and have 12 bucks on cam since mid july... never seen a new one show up and these are the only 2 six points ive got on cams. but even with that being said, i will take your advice and sit with them because i dont want them to shoot one of the young 8s by mistake. once again thanks for the info.. thats something i hadnt thought about!!!!
rifleman- thats still a nice buck. heck hed be a monster here. how small of a parcel are we talking? That's basically the reason Mr. Gimpy 6/7 is still living and why I want more bucks around is due to the small acreage I have to work with and wanting plenty of selection within the different age classes once they reach maturity.
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: rifleman]
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11/17/11 03:01 AM
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300 acres tops.. its land locked by the growing city and neighborhood..
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
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11/17/11 03:06 AM
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300 acres tops.. its land locked by the growing city and neighborhood.. Is this what they call a Green High Fence?
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: stxranchman]
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11/17/11 03:07 AM
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no, no, no, those deer can visit the local sonic and rut in the mall parking lot.
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: rifleman]
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11/17/11 03:07 AM
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because you can a good taxidermist can fix the problem for you for a fee. Why add something there that that deer never had anyways? a little off topic: but if I had a 3 legged deer I wanted a full body mount done on, I'd make sure the finished product had 4 legs. I got one if you want to come and shoot him and get him life-sized
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: stxranchman]
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11/17/11 03:13 AM
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is he a really big 8pt or piebald?
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: stxranchman]
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11/17/11 03:13 AM
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ha! yes i suppose they pretty much are fenced if you look at it like that! well im off to bed to dream of big racks......and maybe deer too. later guys
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: rifleman]
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11/17/11 03:19 AM
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is he a really big 8pt or piebald? Nope he's only got 3 legs so his rack will be messed up. He is a typical 6x on his right side and the left side is a deformed rack with several beams at the base. Would have been a 190+ kinda buck. Piebald? If I can catch him I can dye his coat whatever color suits your fancy. So piebald is a definite
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
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11/17/11 03:20 AM
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how did he end up with 3 legs, shot?
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: stxranchman]
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11/17/11 03:20 AM
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I have noticed that a lot of spikes will never produce a brow tine.. Those cow horned suckers and the ones who look like a giraffe.. I take those out.. Some don't agree and thats their business. . I had one age some who never would fork on one side.. I have seen em at 3.5 years.. Be a big heavy high six or a seven..Can't say I have ever seen em produce a 8.. Since they have to be 13inches.. We smoke em at that age if we miss a opportunity at them as spikes..
A young deer who is forked on both sides.. It's hard to say what he will do.. The next year he may produce brows no problem..
Now as far as your injured deer.. I had one once.. He was a nice 9 he had a drop.. Hence someone shot him.. We found him.. You could see the hole from a distance.. Managed to save him.. Fed him protein heavy up where he was hiding.. Even found the shed with the drop on it.. Now he was a great deer before he was shot.. After that he was always a big big 6 with brows.. Carried his head to one side.. We kept him for a couple of years anyway hoping for his genetics..Ol Tobe, yeah we named him.. Our neighbors got him.. He was a big heavy deer. When they get injured. The side that got hurt will always grow different.. Will be lop sided.. A injured deer should still throw good fawns.. I have only been doing this stuff for 7 years so I don't have all the answers, but I know what the deer on my place do cause I watch em and have done lots of experimenting..
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: rifleman]
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11/17/11 03:27 AM
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how did he end up with 3 legs, shot? I keep asking him but he ain't talking answering me.
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
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11/17/11 03:37 AM
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how did he end up with 3 legs, shot? I keep asking him but he ain't talking answering me. Text him
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: rifleman]
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11/17/11 03:40 AM
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how did he end up with 3 legs, shot? I keep asking him but he ain't talking answering me. Text him And you know this works, how?
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
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11/17/11 03:46 AM
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300 acres tops.. its land locked by the growing city and neighborhood.. Well, with the acreage you've got some options.. Shoot em (choot 'em- if you're closer to LA than we are) or leave them be to have options in their age classes. If the buck in my pic would be big for y'all I might would suggest leaving them be and try to get some size from volume vs banking on quality to show up in fewer deer. Some places only a small handful actually have the genetics & nutrition to grow into your mgmt ideal deer. Those are things hard to control on deer that are part-time residents, but what you can control is the age of deer that are shot and amt shot on that particular property.
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
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11/17/11 03:49 AM
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how did he end up with 3 legs, shot? I keep asking him but he ain't talking answering me. Text him And you know this works, how? Some of our deer are extended members of the fam...added new lines to the family plan w/ unlimited messaging and multimedia so they could check moon phase & weather.... The 8pt is so dang smart he only uses it after 9 and cut off gps tracking.
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: rifleman]
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11/17/11 03:52 AM
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Lay off the hardstuff rifleman..you are starting imagine things.
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
[Re: stxranchman]
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11/17/11 03:56 AM
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Must be the red diamond,, tellin' ya, if every deer was this set in their ways no deer would ever get shot.. neighbors said he has fallen off the map already.
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
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11/17/11 03:59 AM
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He might just have fallen off into the back of a chevy also.
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
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11/17/11 04:10 AM
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Doubtful, too tight knit an area for someone not to know about it. He's doing what he does and hunkering down on a small area and just not moving much; nobody can figure out where that is....or could be in one of our buffers.
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
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11/17/11 04:16 AM
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For a number of years we saw quite a few bucks with no brow tines, one little brow tine, or two very short brow tines at 2.5 - 3.5 years old. We shot these bucks and eventually started seeing bucks with long brow tines. Now it is only on rare occasions that we see bucks with missing or little brown tines. My husband shot a 5 point a few seasons back that had a big body, a 13" inside spread and one little brow tine. This August we had a 4x4 buck on the trail cam in velvet, but his brow tines weren't even an inch long and his spread was way narrower than 13". All we can do is see what he looks like next year and hope he either grows better brow tines or develops a 13" spread so that he can be taken out of the herd. It will be interesting to see. Maybe he is a really young 10 pointer and will surprise us next season. Amazingly, we have some 8 pointers with really long brow tines, which is something we never saw 12 years ago.
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Re: deer management- no brow tines ?!?!?
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11/17/11 04:26 AM
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I would also like to add that sometimes some of the best brows you could want out of what you have is not going to automatically make the deer shoot way up in score if you are really B&C score oriented.
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