Some people are just impatient and cry when they dont get there way....they call thereself meat hunters to give them a reason to pull the trigger... im done with this thread

Amen!!!!!! Less government and more common sense would go a long way. I hope the folks that enforced this AR crap read this. We don't need the government to hold our hands and tell us what should be a personal choice.

Adam_p good for you that you chose to hunt 7 years without shooting a buck. Does that make you a smart hunter???? Sounds like to me you need to just watch deer on tv because you arnt interested in shooting one. People watch the idiots on hunting shows and try and learn from them how to hunt. Half of their shows are fake re filmed bs that they get people to believe that is the way their hunt went down. If you prefer to not shoot a buck great for you just saves more for those of us that like to hunt and shoot and don't give a crap about it being a "trophy". Get over you modern day I'm a trophy hunter crap. If somebody wants to shoot a 8in wide 4 point then it shouldn't be anybody else's business. Navasotbreed from your pics. you post I would say you like to pull the trigger just as much as the next guy.

Before AR's on our place in Freestone county, using game cameras as a survey, we had about a 50%-50% mix among the bucks. Half being shooters, or near shooter status, and the other half being younger bucks. And we were fairly close to 1:1 ratio buck to doe.

3 years into AR's, we now have about 75% young bucks, and the other 25% are barely shooter bucks, most of those being right at the 3.5 yr old mark best we can tell. And about a 3;1 ratio, bucks over doe.

I understand the thought process that these young bucks will grow to be older, but we were doing just fine before AR's. Now it's like we're being forced to start all over again with management. And if the trend continues, we are going to be in serious trouble with the buck to doe ratio, and there will end up being a greater level of competition for breeding. I can see where the competition will bode well for the big bucks getting to breed. But this will result in a lot of broken tines and antlers. So much for the big pretty racks?


I think, and it's just speculation, that since AR's were brought in, more people are now taking doe during bow season than they were before AR's to insure they get meat in the freezer. No antlerless permits required during archery season. And I can see where, if this is the case, then the doe population will suffer over the long run.

AR's are just stupid to me. People that wanted to kill anything with horns should expect to kill nothing but little deer. But people like us, that were doing what we could with a small place to manage our herd for good horns, are now compelled to use a management system that is fundamentally flawed from the start. We were seeing the results we expected before AR"s, after roughly 10 years of killing on average less than 2 deer a year off the place. We were getting resident bucks of nice quality, and striking a balance between the doe and buck population. Then the glorious TPWD steps in and forces their agenda on us, and here we are. My humble opinion....they need to stick to stocking lakes and just stay out of the game management thing all together.

Post of the year nominee.

Post of the year nominee.

I agree, remove all laws and regulations.

I disagree, just redo the stupid ones.

That is a very long list also. We would be left with only a few.