Did you read what I wrote? I said I would much rather have a semi-auto .223 then a bolt action 30-06. I completely agree that a semi-auto 308 is a better gun for the purpose than a .223 but to say that a .223 can't do the job is absurd. I know I'm new and I shouldn't be calling out the regulars but seriously, it saved your life??? Come on now.

Ryan,
Yes I read your post. I wasn’t trying to be argumentative as much as I was just trying to point out that even if you can unload 20 rounds into a hog in a matter of seconds, you still need at least one of them to be a good shot - regardless of the caliber. However, I too would prefer a semi-auto .223 over a bolt action anything under the circumstances I described.

Perhaps I can’t say my gun saved my life, but with a couple of hogs running at me at 30 mph and pushing 200 pounds each, I’m pretty certain it wouldn’t have been pleasant if they scattered us like bowling pins. If you haven’t had a hog die like that 6 steps away from you, it's not likely you can imagine what it feels like by simply reading about it. If you are one of the people that have had to kill a hog virtually at your feet, then you get to say whatever you want about how it felt.

One problem about my posts is that you never know when to multiply my remarks by .5 because I'm full of crap half the time. I joke about the 223 because I enjoy the humor in these threads. Another problem with my posts is that I tease a lot. Guys that take this stuff seriously aren't sure how to take that.

I hear ya loud and clear. Just wasn't quite sure what point you were trying to make. I haven't had to shoot a hog that close to me so I can't say for sure what it would be like. From the sound of it you know what you are doing when it comes to hogs. I won't question that. All I know is that I am completely comfortable shooting at a hog with a 223. Biggest reason I bought one was because ammo is so cheap and readily available. That's a big thing to a college student on a budget like myself. I just don't understand why anyone pokes fun at someone who shoots a 223. I guess I just don't see the humor in it.

Let's compare wound channels if we both get some Friday! Bet they both drop at the same time though on account of a bullet through the ear hole... Haha

I understand completely. We're all on a budget, just not the same one, but a firearm purchase is a big deal to everyone.

The humor goes back a ways. This is at least the 5th or 6th post about this topic and my involvement in this particular thread, as far as I can recall without re-reading it, is playing on the irony that "it depends" - on many things, most of which have been discussed.

I'm sorry if anyone has taken offense or feels they have been made fun of (except for the ones who deserve it ).

Yes!! Definitely.

No offense taken. Just thought I would give my

They all take a back seat to the 7.62x39. Just sayin...

If we are going to entertain the 7.62x39 users we may as well let the 6.8 SPC'ers come aboard as well.

Lets try and keep this simple, tiny bullets vrs BIG bullets

My FAL may tear em a new one but this is just grand...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX8_4b3ldhg

Skip to 2:04 after the first few seconds. Lol.

Also, who cares as long as you can get 'em to drop? 22-250 or .50 beowulf, they both have kills. Use whatcha got.

djones, I get your sense of humor. From what I have read of your posts, you and I have similiar senses of humor. My posts sre often mis0interpreted as well because I often forget about the use of smilies to illustrate that I'm just teasing.

As for the debate on the .223, I built me an AR in 6x45 as a dual purpose coyote/hog rifle. I use an 85gr Nosler Partition for hogs and a 70gr Sierra Blitz King for coyotes. Good stuff both ways.


Chupa

Well the great debate is finally over!! Its final, I just saw them killing pigs with 223 thompson pistol on the outdoor channel. If its on the outdoor channel its official!!

Whew! for a minute I was beginning to think I was the only one who thought I was funny. Now there are at least two of us!

Since this debate is over, perhaps you can tell me if you can catch a hog with a dog. I saw this really cool show called American Hoggers, but not sure if it's real or fake. Has anyone seen it?

Fake.

So, I went hog hunting with my trusty AR in .223 this afternoon and only saw 9 does, one spike, one small Easterbasket 6 point, a hoss of an 8 point and a bunch of squirrels at sons feeder but no pigs....so I couldn't test it out again....I bet his gamecam has some nice pics tho and I was wishing I had my digicam!

As for the sense of humor: If it ain't fun, why bother?

I have heard of that...even used to have a pack of the so called "hog dogs". I ended up with a pen full of the wild beast, but Im not sure if the dogs caught them or they were so amused at the fact that we were dumb enough to think a lil' ole pack of dogs could accomplish the task that they simply had to lay down due to laughing so hard they could no longer continue.

If I got some hog dogs, can they learn how to catch hogs from watching the show?

heres a vid wit da hornet, aka killer of giants.
on the first kill youll notice i shot the second in line, only cause the first has a bad eye, had seen him several times before and just felt like giving him the pass.

I would have to say yes definitly. If kids learn to be punks from video games, then surely dogs can learn from that show. It seems to me it should be as effective, if not more so than in feild experience.I mean they would be learnig from the real hog masters ya know.....

But on a serious note have you ever been with dogs? Its a rush

Good shootin'!

Vanguard for teh winz!
I love the part about finding another bullet while you hear scratching around in the audio, then saying he don't feel like cleaning two tonight! Also like how they don't run off after the shot.

Dangit, still on page 8!

I guess I've been with one or two dogs before, but probably not as bad as the ones M Bennett has woken up with.