No I would take my POF-415 .223 and the Hornady 75gr Superformance BTHP's (2930 FPS) I use every time and drop him in his tracks. Just like I did this one on the river bed last July. I don't need to make up for inaccuracy with heavy bullets. It's not hard to do with the right ammo.





Notice how the top of his skull is missing.

250 is pushing it with a light bullet like that. With a larger weight bullet you can be effective if you are accurate. No lie a 308 is better but at ranges within 200 yards I wouldn't hesitate to use my AR but I can hold under 2" at 200 any day of the week too.

I think you bring up a good point in that alot of times this question comes up BUT the ammo is overlooked in the response. I would think the MAJORITY of AR15'ers are using 55 or 63gr ammo...

How much does that 75 gr ammo cost at the store?

BB

Under $22.00/box of 20, at least thats what I sell it for, same price as mid quality 308 ammo, usually less. Using FMJ 55gr or 62gr ammo is like bowhunting without a broadhead. It just doesn't make sense. Use a good bullet and get to carry a much lighter weapon system.

If shot placement is never a guarantee then its time to put up the gun and quit hunting. I KNOW I can put the bullet where I want it or I DONT shoot.

That's a good hog up there, taken by an equally good shot. The muzzle velocity for a 75gr 223 bullet is impressive. But to follow up on Matt's point, at 250 yards... how fast is it traveling, how much energy is left, what's the trajectory at that range, and what are the expansion characteristics at that distance (rhetorical questions).

No doubt you dropped him in his tracks and have a nice trophy to show for it, but what if he was running? Would you still have been able to hit him in the head? Would you have even slowed him down if it was just a body shot, or would you have passed on the opportunity if you couldn't quarantee an "ethical" kill?

I expect (more like hope) that every shot I take will hit a hog, but I guess I'm just not as good a shot as you guys when the other 25 hogs start running. Nor do I possess y'alls conviction to simply put up the gun and quit shooting if I can't quarantee the shot placement. Nope, as for me, I'll take the big gun and compensate for my crappy hunting ability.

ps - i love these threads!

I don't think a .223 would support my newest toy....

Arrives tomorrow!



I know that West Fork sells these, plug for him as a forum seller.

BB

These threads always get interesting. As far as shooting hogs running with a .223, I think these pictures speak for themselves. As far as velocity at 250 yards, I don't that info. But I know they are still moving 2240 FPS at 300 yards and are way over supersonic past 500 yards.











I have a lot of practice shooting quickly. Here is a video of me on the US Navy SRT team 3 years ago. Lot of good times there, and a lot of ammo spent. Wish we would have had better video on our phones back then.

I can't believe this is still going.

It will die at page 7, thats my bet

I hear those guys on the video post in post #1 are planning a hunting trip here in Texas. If you hear 8 shots you know they have downed 1 pig with a .223.

There that should get us to page 7...

@ West Fork,

Got any photos of the shooter mounting the AR15 with that Pulsar unit, I am wondering where the shooters head has to be when shooting...

Is there eye relief since it is a vid screen as opposed to an optic.

BB

Oh geez, here we go...

I might have to sit the rest of this one out. Then again I know Djones will fire me up again.

benny,
flint uses the pulsar 550 on a 223. not sure how comfortable it is regarding cheek weld and eye relief, but he sure can throw out the lead. sometimes i shoot at the same hog as him so he can actually see one drop.

fork,
the only way to settle this may be to hunt together, but until then...

No doubt you've fired a few shots. I think you could have had a more "adrenalin pumping" range session if you could have rigged the target to come at you simulating an attacker! but good shooting at a stationary silhouette 15 yards away .

What I'd really like to see is the vid of the running hogs getting shot in the ear at 300 yards

your serve

Don't quit yet fork. We're just getting warmed up. Since I retired Killer, I don't have anyone to kick around anymore.

ps - benny, can't wait to see your new rig in action!

I'll try to get some pics for you soon. As far video for Djones, I'll have to try out one of these Digisights this week and see if I can get a video of a long range shot.

So Killer dropped out huh? That is surprising!

Didn't you hear? He went out for a beer and hasn't been heard from since.



If he returns looking to punch someone in the throat, you didn't get this pic from me!!!

^^^ OH Dang..... ^^^

Hey Djones,

I did some research and apparently it isn't that hard to hit a hog in the earhole on a dead sprint at 300 yards, regardless of caliber IF YOU DO IT RIGHT.

Trick is you have to call your shot before squeezing the trigger "similar to Eight Ball side pocket" BUT you also must do the hand gesture! Like The Babe



You can thank me later over a beer with ... uh nevermind.

I sent fork's pic to the lab and found out some very interesting details he seems to have left out. This should shed some light on how he hit those "running" hogs.

you guys crack me up. At least I took the collars off before the pics.

Damn Djones -

When your comedy tour comes rolling through the metroplex let me know, I can't wait for WF's and Killer's comebacks.

It is getting Muy Caliente in here Boys...

This is highly entertaining !!!!

Djones, I'm starting to think with your photoshopping skills. You may be taking your pictures in a empty field! Are you cut and pasting my old dead hog pictures on to yours?