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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: txtrophy85]
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07/18/11 05:10 PM
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rifleman
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If he wrote you a hot check now you have something to take to the DA try and get them to throw in another $60 so you can get a new cape
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: Justin T]
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07/18/11 05:25 PM
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yeti2009
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I understand why you're upset, but you have got to calm down. A lot of people have been generous enough to offer help, but continuing to be upset about everything is just putting you in a deeper hole. And be cautious what you post about someone or someone's business. Again, we get that you're angry, but your negative comments on a public forum can backfire on you tenfold.
I see you're in Huntsville, and I have several contacts there. If you need the name of a good taxi, I can get you some names.
Good luck.
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: rifleman]
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07/18/11 05:27 PM
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TX_LT230FH
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Problem here is that people feel differently about their "trophies"- some think it's no big deal and others want their actual animal. It's not exactly like having a baby switched at the hospital, or getting the wrong wedding photos but it is aggravating and could have been handled better by the taxi. Friend of mine killed a really nice buck and took great pains to take good care caping, icing, etc. When he got it back from the taxi it looked like the buck was peeping through a fenceboard hole because his neck was about 6" long then on a plaque. You could see where the cape had rotted because of the taxi's "freezer malfunction"- at least that's what he said.
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: yeti2009]
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07/18/11 05:36 PM
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txtrophy85
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I understand why you're upset, but you have got to calm down. A lot of people have been generous enough to offer help, but continuing to be upset about everything is just putting you in a deeper hole. . me and BMD made offers to provide her with a same-size cape, she didn't want it. my offer still stands if she is willing to wait till season
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: MossyOakChick2010]
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07/18/11 06:13 PM
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TTUhunter4
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All this fuss over a little ten point and a gray fox...He should have called, sure, but it was just an accident. First off this was not a usual sized buck for the area. This deer was hunted on public property where you have to walk in through the sand over a mile crossing a river at least 10 times and it's too shallow for even a canoe. We don't use bait/feeders, tree stands, ground blinds, game cameras, no high fences, no ATV's or trucks to take you there. Where we hunt, when you shoot something, guess how you get it back. You cut it up on the spot, put in in bags, then in put it in your back pack and walk out. This is not an easy task. This is not a hunt where you and bubba drive up to your deer stand with your bud light in hand and shoot the first ear tag $2000 buck. We actually have to "hunt" for our deer and there are alot of hours that go into every season. It took us over 10 years to get a buck this big here and that's hunting 20+ days a season, every season. Not to mention this buck had a 21" neck which capes that are this size are not easy to come by nor are they just $60. Most likely we will be forced to have a cape from a northern buck used which is not the same thing, the hair is different length, the coloration is not the same, the overall look will not be the same. Oh and our taxidermist "did not" have a release of liability on any forms we signed. I hunt public land as well, and hunt more than that many days than you say you do every year. To assume that just because I shoot bigger deer than you do means that I am paying for guided big buck hunts is ignorant. Maybe the reason I have shot many bucks that score much higher than that one is because I am a better and more dedicated hunter. It is silly to assume that any hunter than doesn't consider a 130" deer a big deer is paying trophy fees and sitting in a blind with a guide.
"God made man, but Samuel Colt made them equal."
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: Justin T]
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07/18/11 06:58 PM
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BMD
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Seriously the horns are the trophy not the hair
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: BMD]
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07/18/11 07:08 PM
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BMD
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If I am wrong then everyone should mount does
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: BMD]
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07/18/11 07:15 PM
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Justin T
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If I am wrong then everyone should mout does What is there was something about the cape that you liked? What if there was a double throat patch or something like that? BMD, if the hair isn't the trophy, why do you even bother with a shoulder mount? Why not go straight to an antler or euro mount?
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: Justin T]
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07/18/11 08:16 PM
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BMD
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Cause I want the head but could really careless about the cape as long as it has one
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: Justin T]
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07/18/11 08:17 PM
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txtrophy85
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If I am wrong then everyone should mout does What is there was something about the cape that you liked? What if there was a double throat patch or something like that? BMD, if the hair isn't the trophy, why do you even bother with a shoulder mount? Why not go straight to an antler or euro mount? maybe cause the euro mounts don't look as good????
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: BMD]
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07/18/11 08:18 PM
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Justin T
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And who's to say the hair isn't a trophy?
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: txtrophy85]
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07/18/11 08:20 PM
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Justin T
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If I am wrong then everyone should mout does What is there was something about the cape that you liked? What if there was a double throat patch or something like that? BMD, if the hair isn't the trophy, why do you even bother with a shoulder mount? Why not go straight to an antler or euro mount? maybe cause the euro mounts don't look as good???? The fact is that some people like the animal to be what they shot. No doctoring the deer up, don't enlarge the neck, don't fix that busted brow tine, etc. If you like to use a different, better looking cape, that is fine, but it is a big deal to some people. I'd think BMD of all people would realize that people can be different, heck, he likes Dodge trucks.
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: Justin T]
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07/18/11 08:24 PM
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txtrophy85
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The fact is that some people like the animal to be what they shot. No doctoring the deer up, don't enlarge the neck, don't fix that busted brow tine, etc. If you like to use a different, better looking cape, that is fine, but it is a big deal to some people. I'd think BMD of all people would realize that people can be different, heck, he likes Dodge trucks. i agree with that, i would prefer to use my original cape, but if something happened, as it did in this case, I would still want to mount it using a different cape of the same size.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: txtrophy85]
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07/18/11 08:36 PM
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BMD
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I would use my cape but not the end of the world if I had to change, but fixing tines I agree is
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: BMD]
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07/18/11 08:38 PM
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stxranchman
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Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: stxranchman]
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07/18/11 08:49 PM
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Chuck McDonald
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You know I can feel her pain, personally If I shot something that I thought warranted a Shoulder mount I would be above upset if this happened. To me just any old cape wouldn't do, if I was that no plused by my tropy I would have had it euro mounted.
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: Chuck McDonald]
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07/18/11 09:18 PM
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Tnunn67
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as i come to the end of this post.... i am just getting off the phone with the mason county attorney...... who is still dealing with my version of this story from 2008. over 100 people involved...
all i can say is this..... a cape is not a cape. i settled for what was available..... imagine a hill country deer with an ohio cape.....(i only had it mounted for my son's sake...his first hunting trip... not his deer, but first hunting trip )
kinda strange to look at , but makes a good conversation piece.
so .... be mad..... but be happy you got your antlers back.... there are several people involved in the case with me that never got any part of their CHILDS FIRST DEER returned to them..
just my 2 cents
" My people skills are just fine. It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work "
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: Tnunn67]
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07/18/11 11:12 PM
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Bulldog4949
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You said there was no sheet of paper signed with agreements, liabilities, promises, etc......
So you actually have nothing to give to the DA regarding the TAXI part of it except the hot check correct???
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: Bulldog4949]
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07/18/11 11:16 PM
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4K outdoors and taxidermy
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.....and here we are back at "go shop around for a taxidermist, now",, before you need one print out this post ask him/her what to expect. There's no need to settle for anything less, or something you wouldn't be happy with. Knowledge will set you free!
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: 4K outdoors and taxidermy]
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07/19/11 12:17 AM
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BMD
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You volunteering for the job
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: BMD]
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07/19/11 12:36 AM
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stxranchman
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You volunteering for the job If the couple are volunteering to pay it sounds like to me
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: BMD]
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07/19/11 12:38 AM
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AGAIN I will repeat it for the slower folks.
Did the guy screw up ? Yes Should he have called and informed of the problem ? Yes Was it an unethical business move Yes Would they had known the difference if his plan worked ? Judging by comments made by her probably not Did he refund the money Yes, granted the check bounced which he could have withdrawn funds after seeing this Drama fest.
Everybody can Back off of BMD He offered on several occasions to help by finding a Taxi and even donating a new Cape to make the best of a bad situation and not one person thanked him or acknowledged it, I personally think that was a very stand up thing to do for somebody he didn't even know.
Next I can assure you there is more to this story than is being told, judging by the childish behavior or response to some Adult responses left.
Take some personal responsibility If I shot a trophy white tail I would only use a trusted and recommended Taxidermy Artist, if this happened Would I be mad sure for all of about 5 minutes, especially if they where willing to fix it and people offered to help.
On the case of Fraud you have no CASE, at most you can file charges for theft by check with the D.A.'s Office. No D.A. is going to waste his time with this, they would plead it down to the Theft by Check charge.
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Re: Taxidermy Nightmare!
[Re: calcreek]
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07/27/11 04:22 AM
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BMD
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No reason to put on plaque capes are easy to come by, hell I will get you one if you need it. Yep. Not that big of a deal on the buck unless there was just something unique about the hide. The fox I can understand more, being that you want THE fox you shot, not one the taxi picked up somewhere. The deer mount is all about the horns, as long as those are original it's all good in my book. Holy crap calcreek you better delete this before someone sees you agreeing with me
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