Thought so. Just so you know the easiest hunts I have been on were LF on large ranches in South Texas after the use of trail cameras. We could pattern just about every buck to a "T". Corn the senderos and stalk up on foot and shot a few bucks with a bow or from a top drive on a couple ranches.

I have always had more trouble shooting deer off of a protein feeder than baited senderos too.

Just because I haven't "experienced" something first hand doesn't mean I have no right to an opinion on it.Here's a short list of some things I haven't done first hand but kinda think they are not desirable:

1)Drugs
2)Prostitutes
3)Stealing

Some "hunting" related ones:

1)Poaching-(Can be challenging I hear dodging all those game wardens.)
2)Exceeding bag limits (I hear it can be hard stuffing a deer in a truck toolbox).
3)Spotlighting deer (I hear that can be real challenging sometimes if your battery runs low.)

Yeah,I know all those things are illegal but IMO HF "hunting" should be too. And alot of other states have agreed with me.

You're welcome to your opinion about HF hunting. I draw the line at you calling me a liar (corrupt politician to be exact), though. I was sharing my experience, nothing more.

the big picture here is we all love the outdoors! hf or lf it doesnt matter. do you think the memories and bonds we make care how tall the fences are? ill answer that one,NOPE. i have had had the priviledge to hunt both high and low fence. and will continue to hunt both. try not to loose sight of the big picture. for those of you that just try and focus on what you think is bad becareful cause you just might miss all the good stuff going on around you!

Well written!!!!!!

This guy gets it

Gets what? Texas is shedding at least 20,000 hunters a year and the hunting public is rapidly shrinking to below 5% of the population. Do the math. Whatever is going on is not working.

I don't think HF has anything to do with that.... of LF for that matter. It's a reflection of our changing society.

But it doesn't help. Like someone said. Do the guys who HF'ed to keep the little guy out expect the little guy to support the HF'ers God given right to keep the little guy out? The present system is not working.

So if the problem is cost, how does that relate to the size of the fence? Are HF deer that much more expensive? What is the cost of a HF doe versus a LF doe? a 130 class buck? a 180 class buck?

I love your factual information leblanc. According to your facts and math I came up with this.

25 Million People in Texas
5% hunt according to you
1.25 million Hunters in Texas
20,000 a year are lost
62.5 years (the amount of time there won't be any hunters in Texas)

I tell you what, I have been enlightened and I am going to start tomorrow on a crusade to replace the lost hunters so that in 62.5 years there will still be hunters in Texas.

Intersting post, I didn't realize that hunting deer was based on cost. That deer are bought to hunt? Kind of like a business transaction? Like livestock?

So true, and this is a significant reason I'm hoping to move out of TX soon.

Cost is a huge problem and for practical purposes IS the problem. The little guy is priced out and a reason is high fence. It's not the only reason but it is a reason. The HFer's are essentially out for the trophy and are trying their best to produce that animal and at the same make a profit. Nothing wrong with that HOWEVER what is the downside or at least what is the downside of the way it's done now. Hunters are now looking at what is called price point and at what point are they looking for a substitute or at what point do they go overseas. At some point in time if the trend decreases then the state will recognize it as a revenue problem and apply governmental forces or the sport will end for lack of support and an endless supply of enemies who will win a war of attrition.

You're technically paying for the hunt, at least for native game.

So what would be a reasonable amount to pay to hunt someone's private land in Texas? Any private land hunted, whether HF or LF will come with a fee. How much should that be?

Face it, hunting in Texas is now for sport and not for food. And just like any sport people will use technology to pervert it. Bonds, Canseco and McGuire used steroids to excel in baseball and HF ranches use protein and selective breading to grow monster deer and use the fence to keep them from losing their investment. Here in Texas people who are poor cannot afford to hunt and in the past they were the ones who had to hunt in order to feed their families. Now instead of hunting to get food they go to McDonalds for the dollar menu. And the reality is that people with more money than sense will pay a ranch an insane amount of money to walk to a stand in flip flops stare at a protein feeder and then shoot a huge buck or exotic that is going to the easiest food source with very low hunting pressure. And talk about how that was the hunt of a lifetime.

So quit posting here and get over it, your arguement is weak and people think your a joke. Sorry...

Well considering that the wildlife is considered the property of the state where do we begin? What are the solutions. First you have to have hunters. From a business standpoint you want more people paying less then fewer people paying more. You could consider the concession method used in RSA where landowners merge their properties for hunting. Landowners could opt out by paying a tax. Those who engage might get a tax break or be tax free. What landowners haven't figure out is that when the state starts losing revenue they will be the most vulnerable.

I guess if you take off the greed, prob where they use to be at.

How much was that and in what era? I'm asking an honest question. I'd really like to know what should be considered fair.

Your randomness and lack of focus makes me wonder if you been hitting the hooch or maybe too many natty lights...

Inflation is a bitch huh?

The Texas Wildlife Code Sec. 11.011 says that the deer are the public property of the people of the State of Texas. I believe that what should be considered fair is that no one be able to pen those deer up for their exclusive benefit since they belong to all of us. I get that the appointees on the Texas Wildlife commission disagree-primarily because many of them are high-fencers themselves. But that doesn't make it right.