Hornady sells 3 very different bullets in their 30/06 Superformance ammo, the SST, the GMX, and the InterBond. These bullets have very different terminal performance. Again, the bullet is more important than the headstamp.

I hope you are just trying to be a funny guy today....

.270 was first shot, he laid down.

Upon going to the field to retrieve him he stood up and ran.

I ran back to truck and pulled the .308 with core loks

Shot him twice in the next 10 mins from 40 -50 yards with that load.

Autopsy shows none of the three shots passed through hide and shoulder plate.

Thats it, thats the truth . Believe it or don't.

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and to think I went through this sow's (that went well over 200) shoulder with nothing but a cheapy 9mm bullet at about 15yrds...

redchevy, u should get some different ammo or something because a half inch piece of steel wont even stop a .270 at 100yrds. So I odnt see a hog's shoulder stopping it anytime soon.

No that would be fact. A 308 will penetrate 1/2 inch steel plate with regular hunting ammo. If you think a hog is going to stop it you are mistaken.

Amen.

And, a two hogs at 120 & 100lbs standing next to each other will not stop a 180gr core-lokt from a 30-06 at 100yrds....

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Uh OK guys then I must have been shooting the .308 all wrong. Next time I will be sure to set it to full power.

My bad....

and to think I went through this sow's (that went well over 200) shoulder with nothing but a cheapy 9mm bullet at about 15yrds...

redchevy, u should get some different ammo or something because a half inch piece of steel wont even stop a .270 at 100yrds. So I odnt see a hog's shoulder stopping it anytime soon.
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Yes I know... Im completely calling BS on the 308, 30-06, 270, or practicaly any gun not penetrating the shield. The hog I shot this weekend was around 150 lbs boar with a 270 and it had no issues going through both sides of his "shield" at over 100 yards.

Tough animals... Yes for sure

Bullet proof... No

.. it helps if you hit them

I totally agree, any of the calibers you listed will do the job.
But shot placement is huge, you have to know where the round is going, doesn't always matter how much grain you have in the cartridge for a assertive marksman, it's a true one shot, one kill.

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Only reason not to hit 'em in or behind the ear is to maybe save the head for a mount? Ear shot = DRT. .223 on up. .308 will easily penetrate the shield if that's your preference though.

Let me be clear, I fully expected the .308 @ 40 - 50 yards to penetrate into the body cavity of the pig. I would put good money on the table everytime on this...

For some odd reason on that night, with that pig, 2 shots didn't get past the shoulder/bone/hide/muscle/ligaments/ of the animal.

I cannot explain it, all I can tell you is that when I line a pig up now for a shot the thought flutters in my sub-concious. Albeit a brief fleeting thought - there is a reason why me and my hunting buddy refer to that one pig on that one night as HELL PIG.

I don't mind being placed in the minority during a dicussion as is the case here, most apparently have experience and enough ballistic education to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that all caliber should be adequate to pass the hog's shoulder plate.

I agree, but offer my story to the original poster as but one example of a time where it didn't happen.

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BennyB - it's all good with me. Keep the stories coming. I'm always interested to hear of others experiences.

They all work, go kill some hogs.

The only round I have shot that didn't pass through was a 7.62 124 grain hollow point. When I skinned the pig I found my round on the opposite inside plate. It transferred all the energy to the pig and he ran about 40 yards before dying. Any other round I have shot does the job. My 9 mm carbine dropped one at 40 yards. It's all about placement and the earhole is the place.

You'd better explain that to my friend then. The man is honest, hunted all over the world, and has more guns than anyone I know. He tells me it happened thats as good as gold for me.

I dont know ur friend, so ur gonna have to show me a hog with a "shield" heavy enough to stop a 308...I just dont see it happeneing. If that is the case, we need to lose the kevlar, and start wearing hog hides.

I understand the skepticism, I've had blowout pass throughs with my superformance 30.06 rounds, but mine were from a blind with a 20 foot downward shot, and he frequently hits from 250 yards out. I don't know the range at the time, but I'm assuming it was something as long as this, and other factors may have been involved. All I can say he's got no need to lie about it, and he's never lied to me before, so I take him at his word.

Just to show you he's not some amateur, his most expensive gun is an unfired Accuracy International AW50 worth about $15K. Its a very menacing tool, I hesitate to even touch it. And before you ask, I don't think he'll be selling it ever.

what does having expensive guns have to do with not being an amateur???

rofl, I didnt even read this post until now, and realized we both made the statement to start using hog hide instead of kevlar

Well logically, what kind of amateur would pay $15K for a rifle?

And are we actually getting in a flame war over whether or not a bullet took out a pig???

The real problem is a sow really doesn't have the pad like a boar

Nothing

Idk, I have friends in college that have litterally never hunted, but because they want too, they go buy $900 rifles....

So Im sure if they had enough money, they would probably pay 15k for one. Just because they dont know any better.


Am i an amateur because i use the old remington that I stole from my dad.... I mean never mind my experience and how many hogs i have killed, lets look at the prices on the guns I own....


Either way, this argument is irrelevant, Please show me proof of a large caliber bullet not penetrating a hog...

Ya, I didnt think about that, but it is not even close!

So if the bullet didn't go thru a sow need ole Vg to +++++++p+++++