the cattle have eaten everything on the lease it is overgrazed for sure...i remember when i went there as a guest before i was a member and it was thick and lush now barren...

this time of year even teh best ranches look rough....not an indicator of poor cattle rotation.

i'd give it one more year,if you like the lease.

how was the hunting during season?

Yea I wouldn't worry about normal ranch operations, but over grazing is no good. Overgrazed with goats would be worst.

I will NEVER hunt around goats again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will NEVER hunt around goats again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this past season was the first time i was on a lease...my daughter shot her first buck...great year just for that...my frustration is that it was the only deer we seen there and the farmer keeps putting more and more cows on the land building new fences during the season and so forth...the cattle have eaten everything on the lease it is overgrazed for sure...i remember when i went there as a guest before i was a member and it was thick and lush now barren...i am looking to get on another lease or just take my kids to an out fitter with the money i would have spent on the lease...to spend good money on a lease and the farmer to hammer the land like he did is crazy...i guess the next group that leases the land will be the next suckers...well my rant is over hope you enjoyed...God bless and shoot em straight

Sheep and goats are in direct competition with deer because they eat literally everything right down to the dirt even the bark off of trees.

Merkin, deer and cattle are not in competition in the food chain unless it comes to grain. Deer are not grass eaters rather feed on the undergrowth like clover, fillery, and leaves off of oak trees and other brush. As you know they love oats and wheat and could care less for coastal and grasses. Sheep and goats are in direct competition with deer because they eat literally everything right down to the dirt even the bark off of trees.

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I agree if you like it give it another year. Where you been TX

Not sure about where you are but in South Texas in a dry times or in winter a cow will eat what a deer eats. In South Texas a cow can eat up to 70% of what a deer is eating during a drought, as cattle will switch to deer browse. This time of year when pastures are short and if you have had no rain for winter growth then cattle are a bad thing. A rancher checking and feeding cattle will also move deer off of a place if he does it daily and the cattle know it. Like posted goats and sheep are bad also. But any livestock in high numbers where pastures are put under to much grazing pressure is a bad thing for wildlife and they will move to an area of less competition.

sheep are just as bad and twice as stupid