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Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: Curly] #2015347 01/13/11 02:30 AM
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Actually, my arguments are actually based in verifiable facts, so they're about a zillion times stronger than that of those that believe in them.


Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: Curly] #2015350 01/13/11 02:30 AM
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You say there hasnt been any "normal" jaguars in Texas since 1900 right? So the fact that one was caught in 2007 about an hour west of the texas border in NM isnt close enough???



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Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: zac02] #2015353 01/13/11 02:31 AM
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Mind you to fallow the 6% rule there would need to be 500 more or so but still where theres one theres two! just sayin



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Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: zac02] #2015357 01/13/11 02:32 AM
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Nope. Because there's a well-known reproducing group of them in Arizona too.

Plus, the people on this thread claiming to have seen them are about 1000 miles from there.


Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: cameron00] #2015359 01/13/11 02:33 AM
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He's all yours zac02.


Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: cameron00] #2015363 01/13/11 02:34 AM
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Also, if you read the link earlier in the thread, they can tell if jaguars have the potential to be melanistic, i.e. the melanistic trait. Even though jaguars have been spotted and caught as far as northern Mexico, none of them contained even the potential to have the melanistic trait. The conclusion of the study was that it was very likely that melanistic jaguars have NEVER existed north of lower Central America.


Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: cameron00] #2015369 01/13/11 02:35 AM
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Already taken care of, Curly. Addressed earlier in the thread.


Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: cameron00] #2015424 01/13/11 02:47 AM
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I don't know why anyone even bothers disagreeing with you.


Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: cameron00] #2015425 01/13/11 02:47 AM
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K Sooo Jaguars are in NM, with the range they have they could easily roam into Texas so saying theyre not in Texas is being closed minded to the fact that the odds are more than likely jaguars are in Texas. But going off your "facts" we need a few more than just a couple roamers but off those "facts" one of those two could be in the 6% so to say there is no such thing going of your again "proven facts" you are wrong.



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Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: zac02] #2015430 01/13/11 02:49 AM
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It only takes one for you to be wrong. And I dont think you can say theres not atleast one



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Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: zac02] #2015452 01/13/11 02:55 AM
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If there was black panthers in Texas one would of been shot already


Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: Dustnsand] #2015459 01/13/11 02:59 AM
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Whos to say one hasnt? You just dont know and west Texas goat herders dont care about turning in or mounting stuff eating their money.



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Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: zac02] #2015464 01/13/11 03:00 AM
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lol keep drinking the koolaid


Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: Dustnsand] #2015483 01/13/11 03:05 AM
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Hard to say what you think you know when in all honesty no one really knows. We all have are own opinions mine leans towards the possibility that PB are here in Texas if yours is other thats fine but dont get say you know just because thats what you say.



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Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: zac02] #2015505 01/13/11 03:09 AM
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zac02, they know, somehow, they know, rather they think they do.


Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: Curly] #2015515 01/13/11 03:12 AM
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Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: Curly] #2015518 01/13/11 03:12 AM
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Well hope one of those saying theres NOOOO WAYYY there are BP in Texas shoots one first! lol good luck to you Cameron00


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Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: Seadog] #2015990 01/13/11 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted By: Seadog
Originally Posted By: Chupathingy
Originally Posted By: Curly
Kninda like a Chupathingy?



I know one exists......Don't believe me? Just ask me, I'll tell ya. grin


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worthless rofl



If I have to explain this, then it wasn't funny in the first place. But I was referring to a "Chupathingy"......being me. I'm the one that exists.

Did I really just explain that? What the......WHAT!



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Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: ] #2015999 01/13/11 05:16 AM
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Not saying I believe in a domestic black panther.

But until discovered, there was no such thing as an egg laying mammal. Or a venomous Mammal.

All wrapped up in one tiny package called a Platypus(watch my language). That is a very unlikely critter indeed!!!!!


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Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: Curly] #2016314 01/13/11 01:48 PM
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zac02 - Read this thread. If you count up all the "I've seen 3 of them when I was in high school" testimonies, people on this board, just this board, probably account for like 100 black panther sightings.

And you keep ignoring the point about how every animal caught and tested in even northern mexico completely lacked the melanistic trait to the point that they believe they've NEVER existed anywhere near the State of Texas.

On one hand you've got science, on the other you've got fairy tales. You seem to be favoring the fairy tale approach.


Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: cameron00] #2016318 01/13/11 01:49 PM
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And that's cool, man. That's cool.


Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: cameron00] #2016529 01/13/11 02:58 PM
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I don't understand why there couldn't be Black Panthers in East Texas.

There are probably more Black Panthers in the Wild in ETX than there are Bobwhite Quail...



Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: CSF] #2016564 01/13/11 03:06 PM
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Well, now that depends...

If the population of Bobwhite Quail is > 0, then no.


Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: cameron00] #2016609 01/13/11 03:16 PM
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sig - Why don't you just start with the fact that melanistic jaguars only comprise 6% of the total jaguar population. If you just go by this thread, we're rocking close to a thousand jaguars roaming the areas you guys hunt. And yet, not a single proven animal since the year 1900.

Isn't that crazy? You guys all just keep seeing the rarest of the rare in numbers thousands of times as high as their occurence in their actual home ranges, which are nowhere near Texas.



There's no need to keep arguing. If you would have been in the truck with me that morning, you'd have seen it too. Would you be calling yourself a liar?


There's no way science can 100 percent rule it out. Could it be an escaped one? Could it be a really really dark tawny cougar? Could it be a jaguarandi? Could it be a Lynx with a longer than normal tail? Could it be a leopard or a jaguar?

You will not find a scientist that says these things are IMPOSSIBLE. Highly unlikely, extremely unlikely. Yes. Impossible, no.


Would you even agree there is a one in 15.6 million chance that what I saw 16 years ago was big black cat of some kind with a long tail?


Re: Black panther in Van Zandt newspaper? [Re: sig226fan (Rguns.com)] #2016612 01/13/11 03:17 PM
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I don't have the time or inclination to look for it, but there was one posted here a few times laying on a trailer that was dark dark brown.... and huge. That thing in low light at high speed would sure look black.


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