Just so people know, I am actually a gun toting rebublican. But it was fun while it lasted.

Even if you leave the meat in the cabin or hotel you are in violation. My BIL was on a weekend hunt and left two cleaned birds in the freezer from the previous days hunt, both without a wing or head attached. He was issued tickets for both ducks after the warden followed him back to the cabin when he was asked what he had harvested the day before. Even with pictures the GW would not give him a break.

they would get a lot more cooperation which would result in better conservation efforts without the invasive and Nazi tactics. I just don't get it. My buddy was wrong, but this is a little too far...

I agree with that Grendel.

the gamewarden was doing his job. its kinda like getting mad at a cop for giving you a speeding ticket when you were speeding.

I am so confused. So how long do you have to keep a wing attached? I just cut the breast meat out and throw the bird away. So I have been breaking the law the whole time? Please explain so I can fix this and not be in the same situation

The Panhandle during pheasant season and a conscious decision was made the
break the law, dont have sympathy. You're buddy rolled the dice and it did not work out in his favor. I admit I may know guys that do it also but it would not be a surprise if they got written up for the tactic.

When dealing with game birds you must leave a wing for ID purposes(leg for pheasant) till you get home(permanent residence) I am not trying to a smart azz or flame on anyone, but read the handbook that the TPWD puts out EVERY Augest. It has ALL the rules/laws that you need to know to avoid getting a citation/warning from a GW. Info is out there just educate yourself before the state decides that WE ALL MUST attend "regulation classes" just to buy a hunting licenses!

so, if I take some duck from my freezer from home and take them to deer camp in a cooler to feed my hunters and the game warden showed up and went through my coolers he could write me a ticket for not having a wing on my duck meat?

or would the dates on the bag be enough?

again, I clean all of my ducks at home, so I have never been in violation, but I have taken bags of duck to camp, in a cooler.

You would be legal to do so.

This is the right answer. Being in the pheasant field gave them the right to search.

X100 I used to clean the birds at my dad's house (on the lake) then take my birds home, after reading the rules I relized I could be cited for it, so I just saved the trouble and started cleaning them at the house, yeah it's a PITA but I won't get a ticket.

-Matt

So your friend KNEW to leave a wing attached, but didn't and fpr PR...... he should get a warning. Kinda like me catching a person breaking into my house and when the cops get there, letting him go with a warning.

The "PR" is that your friend still has his guns to go hunting with next time, instead of being confiscated.

I give an "atta boy" to the GW..... not for the tickets, but for doing his job!

Where are yall getting these laws from? So if I am driving a car down the road I can be stopped for no reason. Because I am hunting I have mysteriously and unknowingly given up my constitutional rights to be free of a government search.

That is what this guy is bitching about, not that a citation was issued but his property was searched with no consent, no exigent circumstances and obviously no reasonable suspicious as they were not even at the truck when they searched it. Where in the law does it say they have the right to do so. My brother told me they had the right to search cooler as it is a new law. I just want to read it myself. I have not been able to find anything of the sort in any of the law books. So for all the mind power we have on this forum can somebody please post a link to this new law? Please!

If it's wrong(illegal search) for them to search a cooler without permission, then you can ask for your day in court. How much you wanna bet you'll lose when it goes to trial?

It wont be a question of if I am found guilty or not. It will be a question of will the wardens conducting the illegal search be found liable as a result of the civil trial.

BTW do you have a link where they are allowed to search vehicles and the contents without the aforementioned requirements?

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/general/penalties/


Here you go.

INSPECTION AUTHORITY: A game warden who observes a person engaged in an activity governed by the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code or reasonably believes that a person is or has been engaged in such an activity may inspect:
1.any license, permit, tag, or other document issued by the department and required by the Texas Parks and Wildife Code of a person hunting or catching wildlife resources;
2.any device that may be used to hunt or catch a wildlife resource;
3.any wildlife resource in the person's possession; and
4.the contents of any container or receptacle that is commonly used to store or conceal a wildlife resource.

How did you find that so fast? I have been looking and asking for 2 days.

Called someone who deals with it on a daily basis. BTW, the search "rules" expansion for game wardens took effect in 04.

Here's another one...
You guys are correct, they have no more criminal power than any other person, but they have a lot more leeway and a lower standard of proof... Once they enter a property to enforce game laws, and happen to find a crime, then it's a crime in their presence where they lawfully had a right to be....

It's their administrative powers that are nice to have around, plus they are some of the best walking LIE DETECTORS known to man...



Sec. 12.103. ENTERING LAND; USE OF INFORMATION OBTAINED BY ENTRY; CIVIL PENALTY. (a) To enforce the game and fish laws of the state and to conduct scientific investigations and research regarding wild game or fish, an authorized employee of the department may enter on any land or water where wild game or fish are known to range or stray. No action may be sustained against an employee of the department to prevent his entering on land or water when acting in his official capacity as described by this subsection.

Like I said...if you dont like it, give up hunting. I truly appreciate you suggesting I am somehow an Obama supporter because I understand some of the laws. I dont like it as much as you, but it is what it is...

Surely you meant to quote someone else, as I have no earthly idea what you are talking about??????????

A cooler in the truck is all a GW needs, if he finds game in the cooler the whole truck is fair game.

No, not you. The original poster wanted to claim because I stated legal facts I was somehow the reason Obama is in office.