I grew up on a hunting camp and outfit myself. My old man shot a 22-250 only for my entire life. Nech and head shot everything. Back then you did not waist meat. I have the old pre 64 in my safe now. I am going to use it this weekend to do some culling. 60 gr. partition and your good to go. My Primary rifle is a 257 Weatherby. I guide with an Ultra Mag to clean up crappy shots from all the flinching Super Mag shooters scared of their guns. I do not care about caliber. If I had my choice I would tell everyone to bring a 7mag. I am sick of gutting deer and hogs gut shot with Big Guns. I had a customer a few weeks ago come down for his third year in a row. Jerked 2 feet left with his 300 WSM. I hit the buck running it the rear end at 250 plus to anchor him. I doubt he will come back to me again. He learned how to gut and quarter a gut shot torn up deer. I see better and more consistent kill shots with smaller calibers. But, when people wound deer and my kill fee and tip take off running the 200 Accubond out of my Ultra MAg goes and gets em. I don't care if you can afford a 338 Lapua or an Savage 222. SHOT PLACEMENT. I have a 9 yr old that has not lost a deer yet. Point of Shoulder for bucks and necks for doe. We have MLD land and he gets plenty of shooting.

I don't know about a 22-250, but if I see someone show up with a 25-06, I admire them for ignoring the typical bravado that says you need an elk cartridge to kill a 200 lb whitetail.

I have killed deer with a 223, 22-250, 243, 25-07, 270, 30-06, 7mm mag, 300 win mag.

the magnums certainly have their edge, but there is nothing wrong with using a small caliber rifle in the right hands, with the right bullet for whitetails

I want them bleeding out both side's no matter where I hit them and the 22's can't guarantee that. A 55 grain soft point traveling 3500 fps can really scramble the innards of a whitetail I've seen it many time's. But a 150 grain nosler moving at the same speed does it in a more spectacular fashion and it will exit.

i used to think so too......but we shot a deer in the shoulder with a 150 grain partition from a .300 wby mag at 160 yards......and the bullet did not exit!

We do not allow anything less than 243 on our place but it is very capable with a good shot. It is really good for younger hunters I would rather have them using a smaller caliber that they are confident in than taking a shot at a deer with their eyes closed and tensed up for the recoil to come from a bigger gun.

So when did you start shooting a 300wby or did this happen to your mom's uncle's brother's cousin?

The 22-250 is designed as a varmit round. But the .30-06 was designed as a people killer. That doesn't mean that's all it can do.

If a ranch is suspicious about a clients abilities, why don't they allow the hunter a chance to prove himself? A hog hunting guide my brother-in-law went with made every hunter check his zero before he would let them shoot over his dogs

I was 7 when I shot my first deer with a .22-250. Freehand from about 75 yrds. Wasn't able to hold the gun real still and squeezed when I thought I was on the heart/shoulder area. Shot her dead in a ham. Dropped her right there but was still alive when Dad and I got to her. Dad handed me the knife and I quickly ended it.

That being said, with correct shot placement I have no problem at all with the .22-250 for deer. I have killed 3-4 deer per year since 1983 and at least 30 of them have been with the .22-250. It's what my son will shoot his first with in a few years and I won't hesitate to put it in the blind with me, my wife or my son. I still shoot it to this day and 90% of my deer have been taken with it or a .220 Swift.

lol, no it was a clients, really nice rifle made by sauer, direct from germany.


here is the deer and the rifle:

I had heard of such with the partitions but have never seen it at those speeds. What did it look like when recovered? I have recovered one Partition and it was a 225gr started at 2700fps from a 350 Remington Mag. The neck stopped it at 75 yards on a 240lb rutting mullie. Ut was under the hide on the far side after taking out the heck bone, front core almost all gone expanded back to the partition

its not that you can't.you can use 22 hornet just not wise.our local game wardens tell people all the time as long its legal have fun,but if your taken long shots and not finding because using smaller cal. you could be fined. just take good shots and have fun.

Interesting

Very

.220 swift running 4000ft per second with a 53gr TSX takes out 250 to 300lb hogs with no issues I know that for sure!

I have killed countless deer with my Hornet.. I would love to see that ticket hold up. 22 cal centerfire is all that is stated in the law, a GW can no more write a person a ticket for hunting deer @ 150yards with or Hornet than he can a 7mm STW @ 1000. I own the entrie range of .22 rounds from the little Hornet to 223WSSM. I carry the Hornet for fun and my young sons like the WSSM, 22-250, or the Swift.

For most outfitters and hunting ranches if the deer is wounded you pay...so most of the hunters will shoot a bigger caliber. But like most say it is the shot placement that makes the round a good one. Nothing less than a .243 for buck hunting with me and I have got to see them shoot at the range first and foremost.

I agree, no way he can write a ticket for that.

On my place I dont care what the clients use. Im more concerned with how they shoot. I learn plenty about clients in about 15 minutes at the range. Depending on how they shoot sometimes determines where we hunt. Great shooting at the range, anyplace is open. Not so good and we are hunting someplace with short shot distances. I have the same blood=kill policy but I would hate to ever lose a deer. Cross my fingers it hasnt happened yet. Most of the guys I see that have problems shooting are those with the big calibers. Particularly if it has a muzzle break. They jump in anticipation of the recoil. I would much rather a guy show up with a 22-250 that can drive tacks than someone with an super mag and he is jumping all over the place. Shot placement is everything.

you ever shoot any deer with that?

how long is your average shot up in that country?

Varmint round!

Cheaper to shoot and less kick when you have alot of rounds going down range at hogs, coyote, bobcats ect...

I guide hunts and dont care for anything less than a 25-06 yes that includes the .243 your daddy killed every deer he ever pointed it at.

Simply put I havent met a kid yet that couldnt handle the kick of a 25-06, and I dont care what you can get away with I want blood trail and margin for error, and left over energy because by murphys law the one time you have your .223/22-250 with you that 230LBS Moster will walk out at 225yds.....


and there you are with a 22-250 with a varmint bullet and your severlly undergunned.

Dont think most people are going to let a kid shoot at a buck 225 yards anyways.

WHITE-TAILED DEER BODY WEIGHTS BY AGE-CLASS NORTH TEXAS
240 and 225 is considerable above adverage, And shots are to. according to small survey, these are realistic . WHITE-TAILED DEER BODY WEIGHTS BY AGE-CLASS NORTH TEXAS

½ year old bucks 43 pounds 1½ year old bucks 73pounds
2½ year old bucks -88 pounds 3½ year old bucks 98 pounds
4½+ year old bucks -107 pounds
½ year old does - 38 pounds 1½ year old does 60 pounds
2½ year old does - 65 pounds 3½ year old does 70 pounds
4½+ year old does - 72 pounds

distance for taking deer (in yards)?
50 31 40.79%
75 27 35.53%
100 16 21.05%
150 3 3.95%
200 3 3.95%
250 1 1.32%
One place that limits 25 cal up >salt fork in collingsworth co. Pay big money/ use big gun, or get closer than guide did,

1. The kid and 25-06 reference was to say that anyone without shoulder surgery should be able to handle the 25-06 not implying kids should be shooting 250yds

2. as for the body weights I have taken 3 bucks this year in texas and oklahoma
#1. 205lbs- 50yds 270win
#2. 170lbs 75yds 300wby
#3. 210lbs 75yds 257wby

and while im sure a 22-250 "would kill'um just as dead" why risk it, after all I dont pay for guided hunts but with all the time, money, effort and work I put into hunting im not going to ruin it with loosing one over wanting to take a lighter gun.

TxTrophy that is the same setup I shoot in my swift. We hunt in Junction, Boerne, Kendalia, Sabinal and every now and then just outside of Helotes. Shot distances vary, but I took a low 140's 10pt in Sabinal with the swift at a step over 240yrds. He dressed out right at 145lbs. Didn't take a step. My little brother took his first buck (a 155" 12pt in Junction) at a hair under 200yrds with the same gun and DRT. Mine was shot in the shoulder and broke them both. His was shot at the top of the neck and almost took his head completely off. Spengler's Taxidermy in Helotes had to come up with a cape to get him mounted.

Never shot a deer with it.