All im saying is that this is one of the first times i have ever heard about the rage being the problem without a bad shot happening. 99% of the time people will be all upset becuase they didnt get any penetration becuase they either shot them in the shoulder blade or some other tough spot. everyone that has shot a rage and made a good shot will and probably is hooked. And even what happened on this post was human error he shouldnt have tooken the shot. It just is starting to get on my nerves all of these negative posts when they are ALL almost becuase of human error. and i spot and stock all the time with my rage and they have yet to fall out of the O ring. Have not had one error with the rages that was not my fualt.

magnus stinger with a 58# bow will go right through a shoulder blade and get a pass through. just saying

For the past two years i am 9 for 9 on watching my animals go down. Five deer and four turkeys, I love Rage.

I am not arguing that a magnus stinger wont go through an animals shoulder blade. obviously if you are looking for pass throughs everytime then a fixed blade is going to be better. the point of rage is the size of the whole. as long as you shoot them in the right spot they will not run out of sight.

Exactly! you just proved the point against rage. (It is the same reason you are not allowed to rifle hunt with ball amunition.) If you hit them in the perfect spot they work. But also if you hit the animal in the perfect spot with a field point and target arrows it will work as well. Why are we desinging and selling broadheads that have issues if the hit bone such as a shoulder bone or a large rib bone. Why run the risk of something goign wrong. there is always a chance the animal could move, or the wind or human error. Why not prepare for reality and minimize the number of wounded/lost game by using a broadhead and arrow setup that works 99% of the time?