|
Forums46
Topics551,970
Posts9,898,658
Members88,160
| |
Most Online28,231
Feb 7th, 2025
|
|
|
 AK vs AR
#1779652
10/27/10 01:04 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,203
Koenig
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
|
|
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,203 |
If you had to choose one or the other as your ONLY firearm which one would you choose?
 never trust a man that rents pigs....
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: Koenig]
#1779661
10/27/10 01:06 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,203
Koenig
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
|
|
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,203 |
My vote goes AK. I own several of both but IMO the AK design is less likely to fail and the 762x39 round is more versatile.
never trust a man that rents pigs....
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: Koenig]
#1779674
10/27/10 01:10 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 548
FWBanger
Tracker
|
|
Tracker
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 548 |
I've owned/shot both, prefer the AK for reliability.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: Koenig]
#1779684
10/27/10 01:12 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,607
100%TEXAN
Extreme Tracker
|
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,607 |
I would go with the AR. As far as versatlity the AR wins hands down. AK=7.62x39 My AR=5.56,6.8,450,243,etc. Thats versatility. Slap on a upper for the need.
Last edited by 100%TEXAN; 10/27/10 01:14 AM.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: 100%TEXAN]
#1779709
10/27/10 01:18 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 16,745
KC
THF Celebrity
|
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 16,745 |
If we're talking about one rifle period, meaning no multiple uppers, then it's an AK without hesitation. The platform is ultra reliable and the caliber is perfectly suited for hunting and social work.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: Koenig]
#1779715
10/27/10 01:18 AM
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,243
DallasShootingSupplies
Extreme Tracker
|
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,243 |
My vote goes AK. I own several of both but IMO the AK design is less likely to fail and the 762x39 round is more versatile. How on earth is an ak round more versatile? Its ballistics are like a 30/30. Penetration at closer ranges is the only AK benefit there is ballistically, after that 5.56 smokes it.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: 100%TEXAN]
#1779718
10/27/10 01:19 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 7,026
psycho0819
THF Trophy Hunter
|
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 7,026 |
While there are obviously pros and cons to each platform, I chose the AK for it's rugged reliability in almost any situation. The AR certainly has it beat for versatility and accuracy potential. But if I could only ever have ONE rifle, I'd want the one you can roll around in the mud and it still function. The larger bullet diameter is another plus.
Tolerance is the virtue of a man without conviction.
The end of the world began the day it was created, and life is a sexually transmitted terminal disease.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: DallasShootingSupplies]
#1779730
10/27/10 01:21 AM
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,243
DallasShootingSupplies
Extreme Tracker
|
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,243 |
Reliability is broken record that not even relevant anymore. My AR's will run to 2k rounds before they start to choke from being dirty, you will never ever be in a firefight that lasts that long. In addition an AR will hand an AK its butt in distance shooting as well.
A real AK is a totally different animal (we have one), but in semi form an AR wins everytime.
Sights on an ak suck. Ar sights dominate them hands down.
Optic mounting is AR hands down. The Dog Leg rail is the ONLY viable ak mounting option.
5.56 is better and lighter. There is a reason Russia etc use the AK74 now, third world countries are the only ones fielding 47's.
Last edited by DallasShootingSupplies; 10/27/10 01:28 AM.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: DallasShootingSupplies]
#1779746
10/27/10 01:24 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,836
SLT
Pro Tracker
|
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,836 |
I have both If I was going to war I would grab the AK.
Anyone can own a fancy gun but can you shoot it ?
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: DallasShootingSupplies]
#1779803
10/27/10 01:33 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,009
4X4FOREVER
Pro Tracker
|
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,009 |
My vote goes AK. I own several of both but IMO the AK design is less likely to fail and the 762x39 round is more versatile. How on earth is an ak round more versatile? Its ballistics are like a 30/30. Penetration at closer ranges is the only AK benefit there is ballistically, after that 5.56 smokes it. HOW MANY ROUNDS DOES A 5.56 NEED TO PUNCH THROUGH A 10 INCH OAK TREE!!!! ak needs one,,,,you can cut a hole big enough to craw through in a brick wall with 1-30 round mag from a 7.62x39.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: DallasShootingSupplies]
#1779813
10/27/10 01:36 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,203
Koenig
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
|
|
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,203 |
My vote goes AK. I own several of both but IMO the AK design is less likely to fail and the 762x39 round is more versatile. How on earth is an ak round more versatile? Its ballistics are like a 30/30. Penetration at closer ranges is the only AK benefit there is ballistically, after that 5.56 smokes it. Id rater shoot mid size game w/ a 30-30 or 7.62x39 over a .223 any day. As far as accuracy Id be willing to bet most like 90%+ game animals in this part of the country are taken at 100yards or less.
never trust a man that rents pigs....
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: Koenig]
#1779827
10/27/10 01:38 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 207
bcwhit
Woodsman
|
|
Woodsman
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 207 |
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: Koenig]
#1779835
10/27/10 01:40 AM
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,243
DallasShootingSupplies
Extreme Tracker
|
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,243 |
My vote goes AK. I own several of both but IMO the AK design is less likely to fail and the 762x39 round is more versatile. How on earth is an ak round more versatile? Its ballistics are like a 30/30. Penetration at closer ranges is the only AK benefit there is ballistically, after that 5.56 smokes it. Id rater shoot mid size game w/ a 30-30 or 7.62x39 over a .223 any day. As far as accuracy Id be willing to bet most like 90%+ game animals in this part of the country are taken at 100yards or less. Thats user preferance, I have killed over 200 hogs weighing 200 pounds and over with my 77 grain OTM .223 with devastating results. Ak is not versatile at all, its effective range is 300 meters.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: DallasShootingSupplies]
#1779841
10/27/10 01:42 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,544
Old_Town
Extreme Tracker
|
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,544 |
Reliability is broken record that not even relevant anymore. My AR's will run to 2k rounds before they start to choke from being dirty, you will never ever be in a firefight that lasts that long. In addition an AR will hand an AK its butt in distance shooting as well.
A real AK is a totally different animal (we have one), but in semi form an AR wins every time.
Sights on an ak suck. Ar sights dominate them hands down.
Optic mounting is AR hands down. The Dog Leg rail is the ONLY viable ak mounting option.
5.56 is better and lighter. There is a reason Russia etc use the AK74 now, third world countries are the only ones fielding 47's. This. I own several of both and would choose the AR hands down. My ARs are 100% reliable, more accurate than than the AK and easier to maintain. The AK is the most unergonomic carbine made IMO.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: 4X4FOREVER]
#1779842
10/27/10 01:43 AM
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,243
DallasShootingSupplies
Extreme Tracker
|
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,243 |
My vote goes AK. I own several of both but IMO the AK design is less likely to fail and the 762x39 round is more versatile. How on earth is an ak round more versatile? Its ballistics are like a 30/30. Penetration at closer ranges is the only AK benefit there is ballistically, after that 5.56 smokes it. HOW MANY ROUNDS DOES A 5.56 NEED TO PUNCH THROUGH A 10 INCH OAK TREE!!!! ak needs one,,,,you can cut a hole big enough to craw through in a brick wall with 1-30 round mag from a 7.62x39. I would bet one M855 round will penetrate just as good as any AK round. My 308 AR will run circles around any AK from here to monday.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: 4X4FOREVER]
#1779854
10/27/10 01:46 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,544
Old_Town
Extreme Tracker
|
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,544 |
My vote goes AK. I own several of both but IMO the AK design is less likely to fail and the 762x39 round is more versatile. How on earth is an ak round more versatile? Its ballistics are like a 30/30. Penetration at closer ranges is the only AK benefit there is ballistically, after that 5.56 smokes it. HOW MANY ROUNDS DOES A 5.56 NEED TO PUNCH THROUGH A 10 INCH OAK TREE!!!! ak needs one,,,, you can cut a hole big enough to craw through in a brick wall with 1-30 round mag from a 7.62x39. Maybe in Legoland. 
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: DallasShootingSupplies]
#1779867
10/27/10 01:48 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,544
Old_Town
Extreme Tracker
|
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,544 |
My vote goes AK. I own several of both but IMO the AK design is less likely to fail and the 762x39 round is more versatile. How on earth is an ak round more versatile? Its ballistics are like a 30/30. Penetration at closer ranges is the only AK benefit there is ballistically, after that 5.56 smokes it. HOW MANY ROUNDS DOES A 5.56 NEED TO PUNCH THROUGH A 10 INCH OAK TREE!!!! ak needs one,,,,you can cut a hole big enough to craw through in a brick wall with 1-30 round mag from a 7.62x39. I would bet one M855 round will penetrate just as good as any AK round. My 308 AR will run circles around any AK from here to monday. I did the cinder block test not long ago. The M855 sheared the block in half the 7.62X39 123gr FMJ did not penetrate the block but it did toss it several feet. 
Last edited by Old_Town; 10/27/10 01:57 AM.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: Old_Town]
#1779887
10/27/10 01:52 AM
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,243
DallasShootingSupplies
Extreme Tracker
|
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,243 |
My vote goes AK. I own several of both but IMO the AK design is less likely to fail and the 762x39 round is more versatile. How on earth is an ak round more versatile? Its ballistics are like a 30/30. Penetration at closer ranges is the only AK benefit there is ballistically, after that 5.56 smokes it. HOW MANY ROUNDS DOES A 5.56 NEED TO PUNCH THROUGH A 10 INCH OAK TREE!!!! ak needs one,,,, you can cut a hole big enough to craw through in a brick wall with 1-30 round mag from a 7.62x39. Maybe in Legoland. 
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: DallasShootingSupplies]
#1779916
10/27/10 01:58 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,450
TexasTransplant
Pro Tracker
|
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,450 |
When the zombies come, I want a rifle that I don't have to clean much or carefully.
 She was only a whiskey maker, but he loved her still.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: TexasTransplant]
#1779939
10/27/10 02:04 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,544
Old_Town
Extreme Tracker
|
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,544 |
When the zombies come, I want a rifle that I don't have to clean much or carefully. Get a good AR-15 then.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: Old_Town]
#1779998
10/27/10 02:22 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,009
4X4FOREVER
Pro Tracker
|
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,009 |
I did the cinder block test not long ago. The M855 sheared the block in half the 7.62X39 123gr FMJ did not penetrate the block but it did toss it several feet. I call BS!!!!!!  ,,,ENBODY stubid enough ta try an hide from an AK ?(inside a 100 yards) is a fool!!!!! [/quote]
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: 4X4FOREVER]
#1780028
10/27/10 02:31 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,607
100%TEXAN
Extreme Tracker
|
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,607 |
If anyone near Gilmer wants to do a AR vs AK Im game. Bring your AK. Ive got a 6.8 and a 5.56 and a SKS. Grab your taget of choice and lets shoot.
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: Old_Town]
#1780043
10/27/10 02:34 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,544
Old_Town
Extreme Tracker
|
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,544 |
I did the cinder block test not long ago. The M855 sheared the block in half the 7.62X39 123gr FMJ did not penetrate the block but it did toss it several feet. I call BS!!!!!! ,,,ENBODY stubid enough ta try an hide from an AK ?(inside a 100 yards) is a fool!!!!! [/quote] Does the latest version of Google Translate have a Gibberish to English capability?
|
|
|
|
Re: AK vs AR
[Re: DallasShootingSupplies]
#1780046
10/27/10 02:37 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,224
Rebel.
Veteran Tracker
|
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,224 |
[quote=Koenig]My vote goes AK. I own several of both but IMO the AK design is less likely to fail and the 762x39 round is more versatile. How on earth is an ak round more versatile? Its ballistics are like a 30/30. Penetration at closer ranges is the only AK benefit there is ballistically, after that 5.56 smokes it. HOW MANY ROUNDS DOES A 5.56 NEED TO PUNCH THROUGH A 10 INCH OAK TREE!!!! ak needs one,,,, you can cut a hole big enough to craw through in a brick wall with 1-30 round mag from a 7.62x39. Maybe in Legoland. haha good one
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, TreeBass, txcornhusker
|
