such anger... or is it jealousy.... or class envy... hopefully none of these....

i get that maybe most of us cant afford that elk, but it sure is a nice looking animal and to that hunter it is a great feat.
look at the smile on his face. he chose to hunt the biggest he could find and searched for 2 days while passing other large bulls until he could get the big one. hats off to him.

from a fair chase perspective, i understand some would not find this hunt "hard" enough, but to others it would be a very hard hunt and they may not be able to finish it.

i wonder how different this is from the "hard, fair chase hunts" that are always held up as the standard... the hunts in alaska for elk, moose, grizzly, africa for plains animals... etc...
how is paying a PH, whose main job besides not getting you killed, is to use his experience to put you on the right animal to kill. you may have to follow him for 5 days of tough work up in the mountains or across the bush, but ultimately he is still doing most of the hunting work. using this as a compare, it is almost like having Eharmony find you a date. someone else is doing the expert work so you can finish the job..... and to be clear i am not knocking using a PH or Eharmony... only making a point

for the record, i hope to be able to do a hunt like above someday when i am willing and able to shell out $10k for the hunt and more to get my tropies back...

the point i am making is we seem to be way too judgemental of how people hunt and if we dont like it or it is not in our reach financially, then we slam it publicly.

i wonder how different this is from the "hard, fair chase hunts" that are always held up as the standard... the hunts in alaska for elk, moose, grizzly, africa for plains animals... etc...
how is paying a PH, whose main job besides not getting you killed, is to use his experience to put you on the right animal to kill. you may have to follow him for 5 days of tough work up in the mountains or across the bush, but ultimately he is still doing most of the hunting work. using this as a compare, it is almost like having Eharmony find you a date. someone else is doing the expert work so you can finish the job..... and to be clear i am not knocking using a PH or Eharmony... only making a point

in all honesty I'de rather have the hi$ guides on any big game hunt, even on public land out west. Done right to offer you a hi percentage chance on a "trophy", it ends up being cheaper than dragging 8-10 folks with you out there and putting them up to split up and help you glass.

as for the bolded part....direct hit, Cboone!!!

X2 on the bold part...do not like my friends to guide ( fix me up ) me on a date with a gal that is "perfect" for me....I ended up coming home with one leg chewed off!

I've heard of having to chew an arm off, but never a leg.

NIce Elk.

All are valid opinions. And while some of us would hunt there and some wouldn't, at least we are all hunting.

Without knowing the terrain exactly, a 1000 acre place in Kerr County could be pretty rugged....

I struggle all the time internally with where the line is... The guy in Fannin County with the Elk in a 32 acre pasture, is too small for me........ The ranch in south texas with 12000 acres, is fair for me...
I don't think you can set a magic number without seeing the terrain and behaviour of the animal

How is this eligible for the record books if it was shot inside a high fence? I thought B/C & P/Y did not take records from animals inside a high fence? and 1000 acre HF is a BS hunt! not like they had the track him, all they did was sit by a feeder and shoot him at maybe 50 yards! Chasing a world record bull up and down the mountains of Arizona or Colorado and taking a 250yd shot is a heck of a lot harder than riding around in a 50 thousand dollar pick up truck checking feeders..... I AM NOT IMPRESSED....

Question????? If it was killed on a 1000 acre high fence, does it still qualify for the world record??