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Re: TTH [Re: BOBO the Clown] #1732336 10/08/10 07:36 PM
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I think TTh has a done a better job to change thier image..90 percent of the articles are memeber articles, and most are about kids!!!!

TTH along with with every mag and newspaper out there do not make money off what you pay for the mag... they make it off advertising... so if someones got to pay for the article might as well be the breeders

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You couldnt pay me to hunt on a 200 acre hf ranch. No I have not, and I never will. But In my opinion it is not even hunting. Its finding, and killing on a place that small under a hf.


Don't ever do Pronghorn Antelope hunting you will be highly disappointed then rofl

why when you spook them cant they leave, its not like they are in a pen.


they don't they run in a circle... most wont jump a 5 foot fence either they look for a place to go under.

Just saying the whole idea of sporting has gotten stupid.. not that I'm for hunting a 400 acre HF ranch, but we all make it sound like its so hard to kill a whitetail, or what ever. We also make it sound like a buck off a big native herd HF ranch is so easy... when you can also go to a very well managed LF ranch and get a 170 class buck or bigger if you got the cash..

Just saying the word sporting is stupid... if we want to be sporting then lets laydown the 400yard gun, 320 ft/s bow, the plush deer blind, the climbing tree stand, doublebull blind, coverup mouth wash.. and we need to go back to loan cloths, nasty breath, and pick up spears or wooden long bows and flint tipped arrows.. Just saying


Sorry rant over so lets back


Not sure about the loin cloths and nasty breath but I am ok with everything else you said...so back
By the way mike9582 I respect your views and I was raised the same way about hunting that your were...just I have to much German in me not to enjoy a good debate.. cheers


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Re: TTH [Re: BOBO the Clown] #1732372 10/08/10 07:46 PM
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Been a member probably 20+ years and am on my last subscription. Not the same mag as it was back then. Seems like 2/3 of it is advertising...It has just gone a different direction for me.


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Originally Posted By: Stompy
Been a member probably 20+ years and am on my last subscription. Not the same mag as it was back then. Seems like 2/3 of it is advertising...It has just gone a different direction for me.

cheers Same for me but I have had it since the first year the published it and I used to read it cover to cover but now it is all ads like you say. I still read the articles by hunters about their hunts though. The rest of it never gets read.


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On the original topic about TTHA: I really was into their magazine as a teenager but over time have been kind of turned off of them. I really only read Eastman's now.


"Just saying the word sporting is stupid... if we want to be sporting then lets laydown the 400yard gun, 320 ft/s bow, the plush deer blind, the climbing tree stand, doublebull blind, coverup mouth wash.. and we need to go back to loan cloths, nasty breath, and pick up spears or wooden long bows and flint tipped arrows.. Just saying"

Where is Beaverbuster?????
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I put it down a few years ago and now just stick w/ my Eastman's & Huntin' Fool.....and Showbox.


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Ive realy liked petersons hunting. It has some realy good articles and a lot of em. At the end of each article theres a little box where the sponsors get to say their thing. TTH mag is fun to look at if your in the market for a deer blind with Granite shooting rails, but i havent ever been so i quit getting it.



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I get the TTH magazine and like most of you find a good bit of it worthless. But there's still plenty of good stuff in there, and I really like the deer science and research articles they have.

And reading through some of the earlier posts about HF vs LF and a deer's ability to "escape," let me ask one question. I hunt a low fence ranch that is fairly large. If I jump a buck in the middle of the ranch, it's going to be a minimum of 2.5 miles (probably more) to the nearest property line. Do you think that deer has a chance to escape? Will he make a beeline for that fence that's 2.5 or 3 miles away in order to elude me? Just askin...



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Re: TTH [Re: stxranchman] #1732441 10/08/10 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
just I have to much German in me not to enjoy a good debate.. cheers


Now thats funny... I know a very good doctor in Gillsepie that has a very nice ranch... no way in hell is anyone ever going to convince him he has to many does.... even if you viedo 85 of them on one of his 10 acre oat fields oat feilds... Love the man but he is a true German for sure.



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I get the TTH magazine and like most of you find a good bit of it worthless. But there's still plenty of good stuff in there, and I really like the deer science and research articles they have.

And reading through some of the earlier posts about HF vs LF and a deer's ability to "escape," let me ask one question. I hunt a low fence ranch that is fairly large. If I jump a buck in the middle of the ranch, it's going to be a minimum of 2.5 miles (probably more) to the nearest property line. Do you think that deer has a chance to escape? Will he make a beeline for that fence that's 2.5 or 3 miles away in order to elude me? Just askin...


no 99.9 percent of the time he will run 100 yards and then circle back behind
you


exceptions being wide open spaces like the panhandle...IMO


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what's wrong with having 85 does on a 10acre field. confused2




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what's wrong with having 85 does on a 10acre field. confused2

grin


Thats just on one.... rofl

the man is one heck of Great Man and person and Gentleman. It is also truely an honor to know him... but he is 100 percent German.



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I get the TTH magazine and like most of you find a good bit of it worthless. But there's still plenty of good stuff in there, and I really like the deer science and research articles they have.

And reading through some of the earlier posts about HF vs LF and a deer's ability to "escape," let me ask one question. I hunt a low fence ranch that is fairly large. If I jump a buck in the middle of the ranch, it's going to be a minimum of 2.5 miles (probably more) to the nearest property line. Do you think that deer has a chance to escape? Will he make a beeline for that fence that's 2.5 or 3 miles away in order to elude me? Just askin...


no 99.9 percent of the time he will run 100 yards and then circle back behind
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exceptions being wide open spaces like the panhandle...IMO

Just curious how do you know this?



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Just a lot of hunting, and watching other hunters from hill tops, driving ranches, and blood trailing deer. Deer like to be in thier core area(they know it the best and feel saftest there), they may leave but will come back



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my observation (and having a lack of pine plantation stealthy ninja skills)...they will put water between you and them...a clearing...or circle around and get downwind of you and wait you out. Suprise the mess out of them at close range and they get stupid and tear the woods down just trying to put distance between you and them.



this is on wild deer...on tame spooked deer, they will trot back a little, turn around and walk back up to you. they always seem to have that..."Whatchu gon' do abowdit, homeboy" look in their eyes.


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Originally Posted By: rifleman
my observation (and having a lack of pine plantation stealthy ninja skills)...they will put water between you and them...a clearing...or circle around and get downwind of you and wait you out. Suprise the mess out of them at close range and they get stupid and tear the woods down just trying to put distance between you and them.



this is on wild deer...on tame spooked deer, they will trot back a little, turn around and walk back up to you. they always seem to have that..."Whatchu gon' do abowdit, homeboy" look in their eyes.


Thats b/c all your deer have been chased with dogs for the past 100 year s rofl grin


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the sad thing is...you're right. But I do like keeping Sabine Co as a buffer between us and the folks who probably still do on a regular basis.


now the way the terrain is...even some of the tracking dogs will look into the thicket and come back shaking there head going...nope, nope, nope, not gonna dooo it.


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TTHA is an association that is good for all of us. That being said, their mag is out of control with freaks of science. There is a market for it or they would be broke. It's a long way from where they started, but things change. It's no longer for me. Try deer and deer hunting, great mag full of good info.



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deer breeding is just like any other business.

it went from the few people getting into it, that were trying to improve a herd.

then you had people wanting to buy deer to introduce genetics on their places.

originally, most of these were large ranches.

now it seems anyone with 50 acres and access to a tractor supply credit account wants to buy high fence and start a breeding operation.

there are going to be irresponsible and unethical people in absolutely any industry out there, deer breeding is no different.

Once again, it's not about "the fence" its about the entire package.




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How big is 200 acres? A quarter mile by a quarter mile, 440 yards by 440 yards, how big is that?

How big would a square be that was 2000 acres?


I still don't think some people understand size well.


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would you add a zero?


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Sig, I'm sure you know this inspite of what you wrote above, but 1/4 x 1/4 mile is 40 acres.

1/8 mi. x 1/8 mi. = 10 acres

1/4 mi. x 1/4 mi. = 40 acres

1/2 mi. x 1/2 mi. = 160 acres

1 mi. x 1 mi. = 640 acres

2 mi. x 2 mi. = 2560 acres





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Sig I figured you know this but did a little math for ya.

3130 yards square is 2000 acres.
990 yards square is 200 acres.

And back to tbe topic, I think I have boiught 3 of the TTH mags in the last couple years. Mostly tired of the livestock adds and the adds for blinds furnished better than a lot of houses.


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Sig I figured you know this but did a little math for ya.

3130 yards square is 2000 acres.
990 yards square is 200 acres.

And back to tbe topic, I think I have boiught 3 of the TTH mags in the last couple years. Mostly tired of the livestock adds and the adds for blinds furnished better than a lot of houses.

I think your caculator is busted. 1 acre is 4840 square yds alone.



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kmon1 is correct. The misunderstanding is caused by the not-always-understood difference between "square yards" and "yards square".

2000 acres in a square shape would have sides 3130 yards long. 3130 yards divided by 1760 yards per mile = 1.77 miles.



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