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 Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: texasd]
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10/04/10 06:27 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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I understand you guys and you have your opinions I can respect that, I don't think if you were incarcerated regardless of how big your institution was you would still be trapped, feed protein and any other supplement it is just taking care of your heard. As I said not disrespecting the hunter or the deer. I just don't view it as a trophy. If I respect your thoughts what is the problem with respecting my views. To each his own i am for hunting regardless of how it is done, just my thoughts on a trophy are different than yours. I can live with this. I have a feeling you have killed your share of big bucks, so I know you respect that deer no matter where it was killed, you have your convictions on what is a throphy and nothing wrong with that.  Trophy or none trophy in my eyes doesn't really many anything.. I just like deer.... big, small, ugly, fat, skinny or short...as long as its not a breeder deer, which I'm not a fan, but will never say anything bad. Guys like us(that only shoot mature deer) can't really diss any thing Marco does b/c his practices are what many of us use on our own places.. and his results are what help convince our niebhors/other hunters not to shoot great young deer with lots of protential. yep.... what bobo said... also if all low fence places and hell if all high fence would practice what he does there would be awesome deer for all to have.. Thats why I opened my mouth on Amos deer, he is doing what Breeders can't.... produce huge deer with out releaseing bucks and AI'ing does. Not to mention those deer aren't for sale!!! Hell and its not just the big NT's that I love about his ranch, he's had several 160's pushing 170 8's that have been taken.
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Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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10/04/10 06:30 PM
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Guys like us(that only shoot mature deer) can't really diss any thing Marco does b/c his practices are what many of us use on our own places.. and his results are what help convince our niebhors/other hunters not to shoot great young deer with lots of protential.
Well said, and it isn't easy letting those good young ones walk. If it was you would see more big mature deer outside the fence. And you wouldn't need AR's... IMO
Longhunter >>>-------> Make It Count!!!<><
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: Trophy Slayer]
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10/04/10 06:35 PM
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there is a huge difference between penning deer "in" and fencing morons "out".........
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: Trophy Slayer]
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10/04/10 06:49 PM
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Well I dont have time to read all three pages of this. So was the deer killed with a rifle or a bow?
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 06:51 PM
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Aren't you supposed to be cutting grass JCB?
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 06:52 PM
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Aren't you supposed to be cutting grass JCB? I gotta eat lunch you know!  So was it a bow or rifle?
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 07:02 PM
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Congrats to the Barrett family. Awesome buck!
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: JCB]
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10/04/10 07:15 PM
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Aren't you supposed to be cutting grass JCB? I gotta eat lunch you know! So was it a bow or rifle? 21 ft rule 
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: texasd]
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10/04/10 07:25 PM
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if im the neighbors that "fenced" him in I'm in a real big hurry to get the wire cutters out and cut my stupid fence down. and kicking myself the whole time im doing it
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: mr. buck]
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10/04/10 08:04 PM
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I could be wrong, but because it is high fenced, the B&C record books wont accept this deer.....right? What is their reason for that? I have no opinion either way about high/low fence. As long as I am hunting then thats all I care about.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 08:06 PM
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No high fence deer qualify for B&C. It doesn't matter how big the ranch is.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: Moose K]
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10/04/10 08:13 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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No high fence deer qualify for B&C. It doesn't matter how big the ranch is. B&C is a little werid on thier definition of HF... "escape proof fencing"... any one that hunts long enough know any thing under 9 foot isn't escape proof. Most of you TX big buck contest state I think . any thing over 7'6 is HF
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 08:14 PM
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Is it funny that MOST people putting up high fences are in it to grown their own "high scoring deer"....but the record book for those scores wont even accept those deer....Im just saying it would be nice to see this deer from Texas in the B&C record books
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: Riverhick99]
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10/04/10 08:16 PM
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I think the best thing to do would be to buy land along a big river system and HF 3 sides and leave the river frontage unfenced. Bet you could get some deer in the record books that way.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 08:24 PM
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The 5 acre/1000acre debate reminds me of a story.....
A guy once asked a girl if she would sleep with him for a $1,000,000.....she said,"Yes." Then he asked if she would sleep with him for $10.....she said, "No....what kind of girl do you think I am?"
He replied,"We have already established what type of girl you are. Now we are negotiating a price."
High fenced is high fenced!!!
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: rifleman]
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10/04/10 08:26 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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I think the best thing to do would be to buy land along a big river system and HF 3 sides and leave the river frontage unfenced. Bet you could get some deer in the record books that way. LMAO You forgot the 21k part but who's counting acres
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: Riverhick99]
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10/04/10 08:28 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Some people don't care about books and public records, they take pride and managing their deer and having the healthiest deer herd around... antlers is just a bye product of healthy mature deer
Last edited by BOBO the Clown; 10/04/10 08:34 PM.
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: 5Redman8]
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10/04/10 08:29 PM
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The 5 acre/1000acre debate reminds me of a story.....
A guy once asked a girl if she would sleep with him for a $1,000,000.....she said,"Yes." Then he asked if she would sleep with him for $10.....she said, "No....what kind of girl do you think I am?"
He replied,"We have already established what type of girl you are. Now we are negotiating a price."
High fenced is high fenced!!! Exactly
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: Trophy Slayer]
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10/04/10 08:34 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 08:35 PM
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rifleman
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I think the best thing to do would be to buy land along a big river system and HF 3 sides and leave the river frontage unfenced. Bet you could get some deer in the record books that way. LMAO You forgot the 21k part but who's counting acres 1000 acres, 21,000 acres, it's still huntin'.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 08:36 PM
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Some people don't care about books and public records, they take pride and managing their deer and having the healthiest deer herd around... antlers is just a by product of healthy mature deer
You have that backwards people care about antlers and a by product of that is mature deer.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: texasd]
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10/04/10 08:39 PM
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ILUVBIGBUCKS
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I understand you guys and you have your opinions I can respect that, I don't think if you were incarcerated regardless of how big your institution was you would still be trapped, feed protein and any other supplement it is just taking care of your heard. As I said not disrespecting the hunter or the deer. I just don't view it as a trophy. If I respect your thoughts what is the problem with respecting my views. To each his own i am for hunting regardless of how it is done, just my thoughts on a trophy are different than yours. I can live with this. I have a feeling you have killed your share of big bucks, so I know you respect that deer no matter where it was killed, you have your convictions on what is a throphy and nothing wrong with that. Trophy or none trophy in my eyes doesn't really many anything.. I just like deer.... big, small, ugly, fat, skinny or short...as long as its not a breeder deer, which I'm not a fan, but will never say anything bad. Guys like us(that only shoot mature deer) can't really diss any thing Marco does b/c his practices are what many of us use on our own places.. and his results are what help convince our niebhors/other hunters not to shoot great young deer with lots of protential. yep.... what bobo said... also if all low fence places and hell if all high fence would practice what he does there would be awesome deer for all to have.. X2 Well said. I also see what trophy slayer is saying and I respect his opion on this deer. He does not like high fenced hunting and I can respect that just as he respect those of us who do hunt high fence ranches. And to Marco, aka Encinal & Amocuernos, shame on you for holding out on us on this beast! What an unbelievable buck. Congrats to your dad and you for raising such a monster of a native whitetail! Wow, simply incredible. From what I remember of your deer, this one seems to have a lot of the same type of similarity. I wonder if this one is the son of your great buck? Congrats again
High fence, low fence, no fence, it really doesn't matter as long as you're hunting!
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 08:40 PM
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rifleman
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could go either way..I personally like to have a selection of healthy mature deer. Not all have it in them to be massive horned, but the more you have running around, the better your chances are of finding one you like.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 08:48 PM
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I have always wondered why B&C will not accept high fence, regardless of the size, but they will accept critters killed on islands regardless of the size of the island. It is easier to escape a 9 ft. fence then an island 9 miles from shore.
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