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Re: Public Hunting Trash [Re: rifleman] #1653845 09/08/10 12:44 PM
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Many are not hunters it is just a party.


Honesty I treat dove hunting as just a social event, but I can't stand seeing trash so I gave all the 410 hulls I found opening morning to the guide and told him to tell the only guy in the group shooting 410 that morning that there was a litering fine of $20/hull.


Oh I do agree it should be a social event and many many groups of hunters know how to treat the land and their hosts property. Then their is another group that probably do not respect anything anyway. Great idea $20/hull could get someone attention.



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Re: Public Hunting Trash [Re: Ed Lingenfelter] #1654193 09/08/10 02:45 PM
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This has been something that really bothers me being a public hunter myself. Last weekend I cleaned up the areas I hunted at coming out with a hundreds or more hulls and all kinds of crap that was left behind. It will only be a matter of time that these landowners close their places to hunters because of this degree of disrespect to their land. I have seen it both on private and public land and it is way out of control.


Re: Public Hunting Trash [Re: Alan S.] #1654219 09/08/10 02:50 PM
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I believe that if the wardens would ticket for it on public it would get better. Not real sure how they could enforce. When they check that could atleast tell people it is the law you haev to pick up your hulls etc while on public property. Be hard to make a ticket stick if the person could say "I am going pick them up before I leave"


Re: Public Hunting Trash [Re: ducknbass] #1654947 09/08/10 06:48 PM
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Yep. It is terrible on public and private land. I moved deer leases a few years back, only had a it three years, but I was still cleaning up after the prior group the last year I was there. Every time in the field I would bring back at least 1 walmart sack full of trash.


Re: Public Hunting Trash [Re: Leonardo] #1654986 09/08/10 07:03 PM
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Dont forget the wads. Most people do, its almost impossible in a dove field, but when we get done duck hunting we make a circle around the tanks a pick them up. Can really make a land owner mad to see hundreds of wads floating in their tank.



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Re: Public Hunting Trash [Re: deewayne2003] #1655004 09/08/10 07:09 PM
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It all starts with their upbringing, how their moms and dads taught them to live and behave. Unfortunately, as the world population climbs above eight billion, you will see more and more of the same because less and less families instill some character and integrity. Sorry to say it.



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Re: Public Hunting Trash [Re: reeltexan] #1660850 09/10/10 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: reeltexan
It all starts with their upbringing, how their moms and dads taught them to live and behave. Unfortunately, as the world population climbs above eight billion, you will see more and more of the same because less and less families instill some character and integrity. Sorry to say it.


You are right. We live in an all about me generation. My Dad would have spanked me in the field and took away my shotgun had I left a candy wrapper on the ground.



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Re: Public Hunting Trash [Re: Ed Lingenfelter] #1661808 09/11/10 12:39 AM
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I was invited to hunt a private field many years ago. The only people allowed to hunt this place were city employees. 15 of them all shot their limit of doves within an hour on opening day so this was an excellent place to hunt. I noticed as soon as I started hunting that they had left all of their hulls and trash on the ground and cleaned their birds and left the carcasses right next to where the rancher fed his cows. I was picking up hulls as I hunted. The rancher showed up and yelled and my friend and I to pick up our trash then drove away. Needless to say, no one has hunted out there since. Yet another good spot ruined by inconsiderate idiots. mad


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flehan Not just a public land issue. Many landowners no longer grant permission to walk up hunters because the last group trashed the field. We are our own worst enemy.

Not exactly "we"....... I think there are two types of hunters. Those that care about hunting and want to keep a good thing... and those who don't give a crap about anything, believing it's "their right" to hunt.



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Re: Public Hunting Trash [Re: hoof n wings] #1662343 09/11/10 04:55 AM
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I agree. I was out at a public dove spot on Wed. and filled my bird bag full of other peoples empties. They were all over the road in plain sight. It had to have been multiple hunters and none of them seemed to pick up anything. It makes me embarrassed to be a hunter sometimes with the bad rep others make for us.


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But my point is Its up bringing. Some folks,actually lately it seems a lot of folks, are not raised to be responsible for themselves these days.
Seems there is a sense of entitlement and privilege too.
Ive little patience for trash.Be it litter or attitudes,both the dove filed our on the lake .I'm not tree hugging when I say that plastic and synthetics are poisoning our lands for sure.
Something to the tune of 600 years to begin to break down??!
I see plastic hulls on the spot I'm hunting this year but not many new to this season most are from seasons past.
I simply can not intentionally leave hulls laying on the ground.Mine or someone else's, I keep telling my self that every empty hull is money! (I dont waste brass either.. smile ).
I'm fixing to get me a Lee Load All. Just need to move things around on my bench so I can get it set up across from my Rock Chucker!
Glad that folks are honest enough to state its not just a "economic subclass" doing it either. IE, private areas as trashed as public. Those admitting to that I can believe have the integrity to actually be cleaning up when they say they are. up



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I cant honestly say I have ever been hunting and not brought back atleast a bag of trash or more from the idiots before me. I understand we all pay in one form or fashion but it will cost us more in the long run if we trash every where we go. Its not hard pick up your trash.


Re: Public Hunting Trash [Re: jhenderson] #1664112 09/12/10 12:34 PM
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Agreed on all counts.

Maybe I go overboard, but I usually clean all my birds and put the carcasses in a big garbage bag and haul them out too. Find a dumpster on the way home. Everyone always says, "the coyotes will eat 'em", and I know something will, but I hate being the guy that shows up the next day or the next week and has to look at, and worse, smell that rotting pile of birds. If I hate it, I'm sure the guy that shows up after me will too.

All this goes back to "respect for the other guy", and the "Leave No Trace" concept as introduced to me by the National Outdoor Leadership School (NOLS).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leave_No_Trace

As said, people are lazy, and lots are just too darned self-centered.


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Originally Posted By: FWBanger
I was invited to hunt a private field many years ago. The only people allowed to hunt this place were city employees. 15 of them all shot their limit of doves within an hour on opening day so this was an excellent place to hunt. I noticed as soon as I started hunting that they had left all of their hulls and trash on the ground and cleaned their birds and left the carcasses right next to where the rancher fed his cows. I was picking up hulls as I hunted. The rancher showed up and yelled and my friend and I to pick up our trash then drove away. Needless to say, no one has hunted out there since. Yet another good spot ruined by inconsiderate idiots. mad


We took my daughter to dove lease Sunday. The farmers place had been free of trash before the season start. Apparently a group of guys that had hunted the evening before had trashed one of the nice shady areas.
Shot any bird that move and just left them to rot.
You can't blame the farmer if he decides not to lease it again.
I only wish they had caught them in the act and kicked them off the lease.




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